What are all the pilots from the failed airlines doing?
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What are all the pilots from the failed airlines doing?
Concerned to know how many UK pilots with CAA/JAA licenses have now been made redundant since the start of this appalling airline cull has begun. Does the CAA keep statistics?
How many CAA/JAA pilots were affected at Maxjet, Silverjet, XL and Zoom for example?
Are people being re-hired and, if so, by whom?
All my sympathies to those affected, an emotion shared, I am certain, by every Professional Pilot today.
How many CAA/JAA pilots were affected at Maxjet, Silverjet, XL and Zoom for example?
Are people being re-hired and, if so, by whom?
All my sympathies to those affected, an emotion shared, I am certain, by every Professional Pilot today.
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Well I'm going to be the first to say that my thoughts go out to the pilots, cabin crew, Staff and family of XL at this very difficult time. Keep your heads up people and may your fortunes change very soon. Good luck and all the best.
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A bit of thread creep here I'm afraid but Bolter 152 I would be very surprised if RYR or southwest have balance sheets anywhere near BAs or Air/France or Lufthansas.....
I hope all the ex XL crews manage to find work pretty quickly...good luck to you all!!
I hope all the ex XL crews manage to find work pretty quickly...good luck to you all!!
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Didn't stop them using successfully a number of Excel (as it was then before some smart ass tells me it is XL ) pilots over the winter season just a few years ago. . . . selectively short memory methinks.
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In reality Pilots will get jobs quicker than Cabin Crew and those on the ground albeit perhaps not where they want to be. All the Silverjet Jockeys I believe got jobs, some temp some overseas. Some went to Zoom and XL, not so lucky. Many went to Globespan who knows.
For those on the ground the situation is bleak so with all due respect I wish them well
In reality Pilots will get jobs quicker than Cabin Crew and those on the ground albeit perhaps not where they want to be. All the Silverjet Jockeys I believe got jobs, some temp some overseas. Some went to Zoom and XL, not so lucky. Many went to Globespan who knows.
For those on the ground the situation is bleak so with all due respect I wish them well
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A bit of thread creep here I'm afraid but Bolter 152 I would be very surprised if RYR or southwest have balance sheets anywhere near BAs or Air/France or Lufthansas.....
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Hi jetjockey737,
Funny to read your comment here, I can't find the post or thread from yesterday..
As from the statement you made, I'm afraid I don't think you're right. It is hard to think of it, and quiet funny too but it is verry simple if you look at the numbers. To only thing that matters at the end of day, is how many profit after tax you made and for how many years you do that. I don't have the exact figures here with me but everytime again if I read in an article the numbers of the past quarter of Ryanair or Southwest and compare that with the numbers presented by BA or an American Airline for example, I just started to believe that Mr MoL might be right. It makes sense too if you think about it. Your cost structure is completely different compared with traditional airlines but you're trunover structure too. At the end you have an absolute higher profit then others, that's beauty of it. It is so simple that it is almost impossible to believe it.
That's why I also think that LCCs get too little respect for what they are (trying) to do. As for us, pilots or future pilots, we have to start by accepting that without complaining, this is a certain evolution and that has been part of life for centuries.
Have a nice night
Funny to read your comment here, I can't find the post or thread from yesterday..
As from the statement you made, I'm afraid I don't think you're right. It is hard to think of it, and quiet funny too but it is verry simple if you look at the numbers. To only thing that matters at the end of day, is how many profit after tax you made and for how many years you do that. I don't have the exact figures here with me but everytime again if I read in an article the numbers of the past quarter of Ryanair or Southwest and compare that with the numbers presented by BA or an American Airline for example, I just started to believe that Mr MoL might be right. It makes sense too if you think about it. Your cost structure is completely different compared with traditional airlines but you're trunover structure too. At the end you have an absolute higher profit then others, that's beauty of it. It is so simple that it is almost impossible to believe it.
That's why I also think that LCCs get too little respect for what they are (trying) to do. As for us, pilots or future pilots, we have to start by accepting that without complaining, this is a certain evolution and that has been part of life for centuries.
Have a nice night
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Aside from other airlines' situionation.
There still are some good opportities out there. From FLYDUBAI to ANA. The immediate heartship is that the office is located a day's trip away from home. Depending of the varied contracts out there, home won't be seen for periods of up to 2 months at a time.
To the men and women, not only at XL, or ZOOM but to all who are temporarily grounded, take a deep breath and rely on your best assets in during this time... best asset being your family.
Good luck to all for you will soon be back in sky.
There still are some good opportities out there. From FLYDUBAI to ANA. The immediate heartship is that the office is located a day's trip away from home. Depending of the varied contracts out there, home won't be seen for periods of up to 2 months at a time.
To the men and women, not only at XL, or ZOOM but to all who are temporarily grounded, take a deep breath and rely on your best assets in during this time... best asset being your family.
Good luck to all for you will soon be back in sky.
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Londonmet, there are tossers in every corner of the world, Ryanair maybe, but in my opinion they have one of the best business models in the UK, it is FR afterall who I am sure will see this through to the end - I would say, however, what a shame that such a once inspirational industry is very fast turning into what appears a 'survival of the fittest' operation.
Jack
Jack