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Old 9th Sep 2008, 07:42
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bmi Regional

Hi Guys

Interested to know about bmi regional please!

Ive seen they have some 145s on the way at the moment and just wondered what kind of experience you need as an F/O to get a look in.
I can imagine thousands of guys apply but what would make the individual stand out to Recruitment?

I have 400 jet hours on a similarish type in terms of aerodynamics and cockpit displays. 700 Hours total time.

What is the Roster like?
Can you pick which Basing is preferable for yourself? Do they have LHR as a base?

Many thanks
CJ

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Old 9th Sep 2008, 11:14
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Regional are about to start a course of 6 f/o's. I am not sure if they have any need for more F/o's at the moment.

Re experience: You sound like you have a fair chance. Generally they are not so keen on minimum hours guys. Prefer 500-700 hrs instructing, or similar.

Basing is never going to be set in stone. If you ever get offered a job, you are unlikely to find out your base until just before/during Line Training. LHR is not a base, but a secondment done on volunteers/seniority. MME just announced as new base starting 26 Oct 2008.

Roster is pretty stable though. 8-9 days off per month. Around 2-5 days stby per month (Must be within 1 hr of base airport). Good routes within the UK and to Northern Europe/Scandinavia.

Very much a good airline to cut your teeth on. Time will tell if it can be a career airline though with the potential Lufty/Virgin/something else merger.

Good luck.

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Old 10th Sep 2008, 09:11
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With the base issue you need to think I'm going to get Aberdeen then moving south as your seniority improves (which may take a long time). Anyone thinking any different is likely to be disappointed. Rosters are getting increasingly busy. I did 7 hours 40 mins yesterday in 4 sectors. 80 hours a month at moment no standby and basically a 5 on 2 off roster. Lifestyle airline no longer. On a good note, people are a great bunch a/c good and you can hand fly a bit as well. First rate training also. You'll soon get bored of the routes but heh if you want variety then Netjets is the one to go for. Just hope I get in first.

All the best

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Old 10th Sep 2008, 13:10
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Was the Info from PPJN, also saying another 145 due? Any one know how many guys had been waiting in the pool, early posts were saying some people had been in a long time. Has the course started, or is it a sometime this winter, had heard of the possibility of November, with further interviews possible in the next month or so.

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Old 11th Sep 2008, 00:18
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Cheers guys!!!
Do you nightstop at all??
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 06:54
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do you nightstop...

at the moment with the lhr and mme work we r all doing a few nightstops, some more than others. Charter work often involves a nightstop. so does a trip to the maintenance centre in Portugal - nice if you can get it

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Old 11th Sep 2008, 07:30
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Hi folks, do they find that the northern bases are the least popular amongst crew?
Also, If you don't have your preferred base, can you bid for max nightstops and tour?

Many thanks

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Old 11th Sep 2008, 11:13
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what you got against the north?? its much cheaper to live up north than the rip of south, especialy starting out in aviation on the low end of the pay scale! move me to the north pole!
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 11:56
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Err, I do live in the north vp. Thats why I'm hoping they are the least popular bases so that I can stay up here!
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Old 11th Sep 2008, 13:49
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Aberdeen is way north and that ain't exactly cheap; ditto Edinburgh!
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Old 12th Sep 2008, 10:56
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ladies

been here a while now in the RHS - and can report its a great little company. Just remember there are only 18 a/c and its run like a flying club - then you will be fine! dont expect an amazing crewing department like in a bigger airline like Easyjet and you wont be disappointed.

That said the lifestyle agreement has helped improve the quality of life and rostering rules. The Emb 145 is great fun and an excellent first jet job as you are still involved in the flying (i.e no autothrottle or VNAV linked to the A/pilot) Some of the bases are performance restricted (take off weight & landing weight) so its good to learn in this environment and appreciate the limitations - when was the last time u checked the performance for a Cessna 152 eh!?

Aberdeen is going to be your base - if you approach it this way then you may be pleasantly surprised to get somewhere else! Nearly all FOs i know including myself have done 6 months at ABZ.

LHR is a temporary secondment done on seniority - you have no chance as its over subscribed by 20 FOs every year.

Another A/C is on the way and another 2 next year if the inside info is correct.

6 FOs started this month and i reckon more interviews soon as we are mega stretched at the moment. We are all working hard (did 700 plus hours last year).

Covering more and more mainline airbus routes as they are focusing on charters/mid haul routes. Going to be a busy winter here.

Regards

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Old 12th Sep 2008, 11:19
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Great Info... By chance do you know if the current course of 6 is the only one planned to cover the one new delivery plus anyone leaving for mainline,Baby or something else? Or will there be another soon regardless of any new acft joining the fleet? I believe there are still people in the Pool.
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Old 12th Sep 2008, 12:23
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woofly

very amusing! no transfers to baby for years and mainline are one or 2 a year - the last 6 up for transfer to mainline had their start dates cancelled.

i understand the recruitment therefore is due to attrition as guys are leaving for Cathay and BA etc and some are going onto corporate jets (Legacy operators)

There maybe more FO positions soon due to upgrades to captains, however i dont know how many people are swimming in the holding pool.

regards

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Old 12th Sep 2008, 13:00
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Rumours of a mass move,lol... probably from a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knew a guy that meet a guy who knows an EGPD cleaners mates sister....
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Old 12th Sep 2008, 13:15
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Thanks for the info embraerFObmi, will keep fingers crossed!

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Old 12th Sep 2008, 22:06
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the 'new' Embraer due in October is allegedly only going to replace one of the currently leased a/c - it will not be for fleet expansion.

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Old 12th Sep 2008, 23:07
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lkm - no worries your not the bearer of bad news dont worry! your info is not correct - sorry.

we understand that non of our a/c are leased. infact the last one that was leased has been purchased by bmi (GCCYH) and re-registered under a new name (GRJXR). All our a/c are owned by bmi now. None are returning to any lease companies.

you may have heard that our spare/maintenance aircraft is now being used full time - we arent losing any units.

indeed the new aircraft we are getting are the ex baconnect/flybe planes that are being returned to embraer by march 2009 inline with their fleet conversion.

hope this clarifies any rumours -

regards

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Old 13th Sep 2008, 12:11
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All sounds positive there. Is it true that EGNV will be confirmed as a Regional crew base for the EGLL route. Have crews been asked to relocate or will a number be new crew? I see Jersey has also been mention as an Embr service. All good news for bmir.
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Old 14th Sep 2008, 16:58
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Hi,

I am a swimmer in the pool and have been for over a year now.

Quite disappointed to hear 6 guys taken on when I have been swimming so long and had hoped they were to help cover mainline airbus down south with a few more guys being required to man the new ac.

I am looking elsewhere now as it feels like the bmi dream aint never going to happen

Anyone know where the 6 came from? Was it all last minute, very short notice? I have a three month notice period as do most of they guys in a flying job at the moment.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Regards,

Ted
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Old 14th Sep 2008, 17:15
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Think you will find Ted it was a "can you start monday" type of scenario.
IMHO I think they were trying to get through to the winter schedule under crewed to save costs and found out they couldn't.

Not sure FO is correct in his info. G CCYH now RJXR was a leased A/C that they secured an extended 3 year lease on. It is not owned by bmi. This info was in an e mail from DFOp's. All the others are owned though. Ex Flybe A/C were sold to an american consortium through Airstream and I expect it to one of those that comes soon.

All you swimmers take to first job flying that anybody offers because you never know when the next one will come your way.

Don't be a jet snob!!!

Regional is a good start in aviation so good luck to all out there.

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