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Old 30th May 2008, 17:27
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Unusual EZY command course

What is going on at ezy at the moment?? I have just heard that although there are no new commands needed on the GB fleet the son of a GB STC has spent the week quietly doing a private command course at CTC with only ONE trainer doing all the sim sessions including the final check. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can advise whether this is even legal??? As an EZY FO waiting for a command at LGW (personal circumstances preclude moving abroad at the moment), I find this a bit hard to swallow....
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Old 30th May 2008, 20:09
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May be he paid for it.
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Old 30th May 2008, 20:26
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Not sure which is worse..... Your circumstances being aired on PPrune or U-tube.

Woody that's some commute from Lahore.. Let it go
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Old 31st May 2008, 08:48
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if the same instructor thing is true then it is indeed against the CAA rules.
The examiner, where possible, conducting the LPC/OPC should not have been involved in the candidates training.
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Why not post it on our private forum?
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Old 31st May 2008, 12:36
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Sounds like you need urgent clarification from easyland. Would not stand for this.
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Old 31st May 2008, 12:55
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Are you guys really surprised? Not saying that this actually happened (no idea actually) but la la land does whatever they want, whenever they want.... Always been like this and will always continue to be like this....BALPA or no BALPA.
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quite so, think BALPA will be there when you need them??
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Old 31st May 2008, 14:42
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Consider this.... he's getting his command training done, then going back in the RHS for the summer because the GB fleet is short of FO's. Then when the switch to easy happens, he'll go back in the LHS!!
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Old 1st Jun 2008, 09:50
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2 guys, on a command course. As required by GB/Easy. At the correct time with regard to hours, experience and seniority. What's the problem? The fact they have to spend an extra month or two in the right seat is a problem, surely, only for them.
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It will all come out in the wash. In past years there would be no problem because there were plenty of commands unfortunately this is no longer the case with 100+ Easy guys all waiting for their slot. I have heard plenty of conspiracy theories surrounding the promotion of too many GB fo's prior to the takeover completion. I should imagine that most of it is gross exaggeration however even if true I don't see that much can be done about it now if it was arranged before the takeover took place. It doesn't bode well for crewroom morale though

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Old 1st Jun 2008, 10:41
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By the way : it is not a merger , EZY bought GB.

(EZY with 150+ aircraft bought the soon to be cripple GB with 15 old aircraft so that EZY went from 21 to 36 aircraft on LGW in one go)
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Old 1st Jun 2008, 13:00
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i think if you do your research you'll find that the GB aircraft weren't that old at all!
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Sounds like you want something done about this. PPRuNe ain't the place for this. Keep this internal and I suggest your Base Capt maybe the best point of contact?
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Wink

We WILL all get our chance at easy! Who knows what has gone on behind the scenes, just put your anger into reading the manuals for when your time comes!
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Balpa, maybe they can help?
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Almost all of the ex GB captains and first officers have also not found this funny.
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Old 1st Jun 2008, 22:19
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heebeegb,

If these two guys are needed in the righhand seat, why do we train them to the LHS??
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As usual a whiff of truth turned into a scandal. The 320 Fleet is actually undercrewed at the moment not overcrewed hence why there are guys on overtime! Good old EZY efficiencies over the last few months have prevented these guys continuing in the LHS because they physically can't roster line training. BALPA have been in the loop all along (I am told) and as far as the others are concerned at a forum last week I was told that there are a few F/O's who have completed the GB command assessment process and who EZY + GB Balpa have agreed a CPI date and slotted them into the list, they will be offered a command in CPI order just like everyone else. All other ex GB F/O's will have to follow the new NTC although they are not allowed to initiate it yet.

There is no scandal just discussion!! And yes i agree, this should be on the EZY forum.
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Norm, where did your post go..... have the screws got to ya
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