flyglobespan former cabin crew manager deputy head of training !
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Afinehelmet
We'll agree to disagree then,best of luck.
Mr Angry
I'm already looking mate,like most sensible people here.
Rugbyears
Check the above and elsewhere,you'll get your opportunity........are you sure you'd want to work a day like today with bl**dy French ATC messing with our lives.
We'll agree to disagree then,best of luck.
Mr Angry
I'm already looking mate,like most sensible people here.
Rugbyears
Check the above and elsewhere,you'll get your opportunity........are you sure you'd want to work a day like today with bl**dy French ATC messing with our lives.
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Jimmy,
I'm genuinely sorry that you feel the way you do about this company and if you do move on I sincerly hope that you find a job that you enjoy and never want to leave.
However, if you do stay (I accept you have reservations about BALPA), then wouldn't getting union recognition in place at this company at least give you some solace?
Whilst we disagree on the items we've discussed so far, I for one think the Capts. salary here is a disgrace compared to our colleagues in RYR/EZY/TCX/TFLY etc and we're all moving the same/similar sized machinery.
If the pay structure here was fixed and one or two other items were "tweaked" then I believe we'd have a really good set up here. The only reason I'm "keeping options open" is because of the money. I know we're losing two skippers next month at one of our bases and it's purely down to money and nothing else.
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I'm genuinely sorry that you feel the way you do about this company and if you do move on I sincerly hope that you find a job that you enjoy and never want to leave.
However, if you do stay (I accept you have reservations about BALPA), then wouldn't getting union recognition in place at this company at least give you some solace?
Whilst we disagree on the items we've discussed so far, I for one think the Capts. salary here is a disgrace compared to our colleagues in RYR/EZY/TCX/TFLY etc and we're all moving the same/similar sized machinery.
If the pay structure here was fixed and one or two other items were "tweaked" then I believe we'd have a really good set up here. The only reason I'm "keeping options open" is because of the money. I know we're losing two skippers next month at one of our bases and it's purely down to money and nothing else.
Thoughts??
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Palangi
So you didn't get the flybe job then?
Afinehelmet
I seriously have no wish to go,I live in a nice place,it's where I like to live and I work with nice people,same as you.
Not only do you and I work on similar machinery,the machinery we work on is asked to do far more and in further places than any of those you mention......and...... I don't but the crews who do operate on the atlantic deserve to be paid as well as their 757/767 compadres.........I would imagine the workload on a 737 is greater than on a 75/767 across the pond if for no other reason than fuel loads........why have the council done nothing to address this divisive action?
I have to look after number one.....I imagine so do you......from the writing on the wall nothing has been learned from last summer.....we have had an appointment(the subject of this thread)to a position to which she is ill qualified.......don't we have any pilots left for the position was my question.........so nothing will change......you and I and those who are still here come July will be working our ass*s off.
So you didn't get the flybe job then?
Afinehelmet
I seriously have no wish to go,I live in a nice place,it's where I like to live and I work with nice people,same as you.
Not only do you and I work on similar machinery,the machinery we work on is asked to do far more and in further places than any of those you mention......and...... I don't but the crews who do operate on the atlantic deserve to be paid as well as their 757/767 compadres.........I would imagine the workload on a 737 is greater than on a 75/767 across the pond if for no other reason than fuel loads........why have the council done nothing to address this divisive action?
I have to look after number one.....I imagine so do you......from the writing on the wall nothing has been learned from last summer.....we have had an appointment(the subject of this thread)to a position to which she is ill qualified.......don't we have any pilots left for the position was my question.........so nothing will change......you and I and those who are still here come July will be working our ass*s off.
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Jimmy,
I accept the point we're going to be worked hard over the next few months, JM's recent email predicted as much.
I didn't operate the Atlantic last year and I also accept your point about parity in terms of pay for those who were effectively flying long haul for short haul money. Not a nice position to be in at all.
Which takes me back to the point I made earlier about BALPA. If we had proper representation instead of the pilots council, then these issues would be addressed by professionals rather than (I'm sure well intentioned) people who are ill equipped to do so.
I, in all honesty, don't see a huge amount of things in this company that makes me want to leave. But the T's and C's (especially for Capts) need to be addressed otherwise we're never going to attract and retain the required numbers of experienced Capts. to keep the show running.
I accept the point we're going to be worked hard over the next few months, JM's recent email predicted as much.
I didn't operate the Atlantic last year and I also accept your point about parity in terms of pay for those who were effectively flying long haul for short haul money. Not a nice position to be in at all.
Which takes me back to the point I made earlier about BALPA. If we had proper representation instead of the pilots council, then these issues would be addressed by professionals rather than (I'm sure well intentioned) people who are ill equipped to do so.
I, in all honesty, don't see a huge amount of things in this company that makes me want to leave. But the T's and C's (especially for Capts) need to be addressed otherwise we're never going to attract and retain the required numbers of experienced Capts. to keep the show running.
