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Old 9th Apr 2008, 16:09
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Hi there

Any chance to get some infos from the insiders regarding possible -or not- F/O's recruitment over the mid-term future?

How is life there roster wise?
What might be the deal for the non rated joiners?

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Old 9th Apr 2008, 18:24
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A few too many f/o's at some bases at the moment.

With regard to not being type rated they'll politely make you pay £3000 up front and then take £333 out of your pay for the next three years (£15000).
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Thanks for that HANS
Is bhx among the overcrewed bases?

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Currently Bhx is slightly overcrewed with f/o's but some are trying to get into mainline. Rostering is heavy in the summer months, I regularly got over 90hrs, and lighter (about 60hrs) in the winter months. Most of the earlies check in about 6am, and the lates vary but many land after midnight.
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All right.
Have you got an idea of the average turn over at the moment? Particularly for fo's ?

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Are they over crewed in MAN?
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What is the time to command with them?
Do you FO's tend to stay until getting command there or are you looking around?
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Bleeds Off,
from the CP today,
at the moment he is only interested in rated and experienced first officers and expects there to be no direct entry commands for 2008.
Time to command is/was probably one of the quickest in the industry.
At the moment there are fo,s who are taking commands and some that are moving on.Attrition rate is not that great at the moment.
All in all a good gig,excellent training,not a bad package,company have honoured first year of agreed three year deal,roster is tending to be a bit more stable,though summer is only just upon us so time will tell!
New fleet would be good news.
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Thx a lot for that insight nitefiter.
Do u know tho if some recruitments are currently on going?
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Lots of pilots (both Captains and FOs) talking about going to Ryanair. Draw your own conclusions.
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command upgrades are on going,two rated guys just taken on and a small number of first officer positions likely mid summer.dont know how many rated fo,s are out there.
I havnt heard anyone say they are jumping ship to FR.
But i will ask.
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I guess those who have planned to join RYR at some point might be reconsidering, given MOL's anticipation to ground a significant number of airframes on the coming winter.
Though, would be interested to have an idea of the number of guys/girls still interested in making the move.

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PS - Is the recruitment main person still Capt P. Durnford ?
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The only people I've heard talking about Ryanair are those that are desperate to stay in BHX and believe Ryanair will eventually force baby and Fly Be out. This may well happen in the long term but isn't going to happen by next summer as some seem to believe. By then there may be other, better options. If you talk to the people who've worked there those that are thinking of jumping may be in for a few nasty surprises.
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RYR forcing Baby out of BHX.... Did not think 'bout that one.
How seroius could that be? Is not baby resilient enough to thwart that?
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Baby gets on at EME Because EZY and FR let them!! They would be crushed if the big boys wanted them out. It is only due to continental expansion that means the big boys have bigger fish to fry......for the moment.
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Lovely nick.......
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The CP's only interested in experienced F/Os? Sure that's what he wants but not quite sure where he's going to find them, apart from RYR or Eastern Europe. Especially not with BA taking on loads of Pilots this year. Baby is a good first job, and good if you want a regional base with quick command. Also their type rating scheme is actually quite generous compared to RYR and other carriers. 15k is about right and most is interest and tax free.
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Could you check your PM's please?
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Indeed a quick time to command is a real attractive factor is it not?
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It's amazing that Propellerhead thinks that being made to pay for your type rating is 'actually quite generous'
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