Ryanair Advert In Flight
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Ryanair Advert In Flight
Have you all seen the latest recruitment advert in Flight International!
I am intrigued to know how the creative accounts department can peddle the lies that Ryanair Captains can make 100k gross after grossed up sector pay. The UK basic is less than 50k so that means sector pay is also around 50k. Surely this is worth reporting to advertising standards !
I am intrigued to know how the creative accounts department can peddle the lies that Ryanair Captains can make 100k gross after grossed up sector pay. The UK basic is less than 50k so that means sector pay is also around 50k. Surely this is worth reporting to advertising standards !
on here, why not report it then?!!
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As an ordinary line Captain based in Stansted I get sector pay of £24 per hour after tax - paying 40% that equates to £40 before tax.
860 hrs per year * £40 34,400
Basic pay 58,000
Allowance for parking, uniform etc. 5,000
Company matches our pension contribution up to 5,000
My total pay £102,400
I also have a fixed roster of five days on followed by four days off and normally a few home standbys as well.
For this I am quite happy to take my own water and food into work.
860 hrs per year * £40 34,400
Basic pay 58,000
Allowance for parking, uniform etc. 5,000
Company matches our pension contribution up to 5,000
My total pay £102,400
I also have a fixed roster of five days on followed by four days off and normally a few home standbys as well.
For this I am quite happy to take my own water and food into work.
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If he is a high rate tax payer(which he is after his basic) is not 40% correct,or more if you take into account Nat ins?If Ryan pay this on Capt's behalf,and give him £24 net,it is equivalent to at least £40.
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More facts
As an ordinary first officer on probation, been with Ryanair for about 8 months based in Stansted, my sector pay is 19,60 £ equals 32,66 £ before tax.
860 hrs per year * 32,66 = 28093 £
Basic pay: 28968 £
Allowance for parking, uniform etc. 5000 £
Ryanair matches my pension up to 2500 £
Total 64561 £
70.000 £ is what you can expect within some years.
Take home pay at 75 hrs average per month app. 3515 £
My 5/4 roster is the best deal I have ever had.
Rgds.
860 hrs per year * 32,66 = 28093 £
Basic pay: 28968 £
Allowance for parking, uniform etc. 5000 £
Ryanair matches my pension up to 2500 £
Total 64561 £
70.000 £ is what you can expect within some years.
Take home pay at 75 hrs average per month app. 3515 £
My 5/4 roster is the best deal I have ever had.
Rgds.
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I most definately am only one person, I'm not management and the facts are as quoted.
There are some very sad individuals on here who try to twist everything to portray Ryanair in the worst possible light, imply that we all hate the job and want to leave when quite a lot of us are very happy here.
Ryanair is not the best employer but there are a lot worse out there and I've worked for some of them.
I am not in the least bothered how much tax Ryanair pay on my sector pay, I get £24 per hour AFTER tax and however you work it, if you are a high rate tax payer that definately equates to £40 before tax.
First officers do get a raw deal in comparison to Captains but after three or four years they get a command and then can have the higher pay for thirty or fourty years.
And yes, I am a BALPA member who wants union recognition.
There are some very sad individuals on here who try to twist everything to portray Ryanair in the worst possible light, imply that we all hate the job and want to leave when quite a lot of us are very happy here.
Ryanair is not the best employer but there are a lot worse out there and I've worked for some of them.
I am not in the least bothered how much tax Ryanair pay on my sector pay, I get £24 per hour AFTER tax and however you work it, if you are a high rate tax payer that definately equates to £40 before tax.
First officers do get a raw deal in comparison to Captains but after three or four years they get a command and then can have the higher pay for thirty or fourty years.
And yes, I am a BALPA member who wants union recognition.
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That is correct for Brookfield contract pilots.
My details are for Ryanair Captain based at Stansted and paid in pounds sterling.
Captains and F/Os get £ 5,000 to cover cost of uniform, car park etc and this is £416.66 paid monthly.
The company match pension contributions for pilots up to £5,000 pa for Captains an up to £2,500pa for F/Os.
My details are for Ryanair Captain based at Stansted and paid in pounds sterling.
Captains and F/Os get £ 5,000 to cover cost of uniform, car park etc and this is £416.66 paid monthly.
The company match pension contributions for pilots up to £5,000 pa for Captains an up to £2,500pa for F/Os.
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Ok.
What's the deal with other bases?
Are the terms and conditions the same, with payment in local currency, or "adjusted"
Leaves our job for dead, on 73's around the Pacific, especially with 5/4 off!
What's the deal with other bases?
Are the terms and conditions the same, with payment in local currency, or "adjusted"
Leaves our job for dead, on 73's around the Pacific, especially with 5/4 off!
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but what does your contract say?
Do you get 24 pounds per hour net, regardless? So if the revenue decide to change the tax treatement of sector pay, do you still get 24 per hour (i.e the company pay the extra tax). If so then grossing up the sector pay is a reasonable method to generate a comparative salary.
However if the revenue decide to tax the sector pay, and your gross amount stays the same, and your net falls as you pay the extra tax, then grossing it up is a lie.
Do you get 24 pounds per hour net, regardless? So if the revenue decide to change the tax treatement of sector pay, do you still get 24 per hour (i.e the company pay the extra tax). If so then grossing up the sector pay is a reasonable method to generate a comparative salary.
However if the revenue decide to tax the sector pay, and your gross amount stays the same, and your net falls as you pay the extra tax, then grossing it up is a lie.
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Our sector pay is given to us £24 per flying hour net.
Ryanair pay the tax, we do not have to pay any more and I am not in the least bothered how much they pay, all I know is that if I had any other job I would have to earn £40 to get £24 in my pocket.
This has been going on for many years so the UK inland revenue must be quite happy with the arrangement.
Ryanair pay the tax, we do not have to pay any more and I am not in the least bothered how much they pay, all I know is that if I had any other job I would have to earn £40 to get £24 in my pocket.
This has been going on for many years so the UK inland revenue must be quite happy with the arrangement.
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Jazzcat,
The HMRC can and do change the rules regularly. My company are currently in negotiations with them regarding our allowances.
In fact, our allowance scheme is having to change from May 2008 and it's been in place 20 odd years.
So, you should be bothered what Ryanair pay in Tax on your pay. Things can change and quickly.
Would O'Leary carry on paying you £24 net per hour if the tax man suddenly ups the amount O'Leary must pay him on your sector pay? I doubt it .....
It is well known that your Sector pay cheques come seperate to your wage slips each month. Its well known that its dodgy.
Be warned, the HMRC are chasing airlines regarding flying pay. Ryanair are no different and are not above UK law.
If I were you, I would think twice about just how secure your pay really is. We have had to, you might too.
The HMRC can and do change the rules regularly. My company are currently in negotiations with them regarding our allowances.
In fact, our allowance scheme is having to change from May 2008 and it's been in place 20 odd years.
So, you should be bothered what Ryanair pay in Tax on your pay. Things can change and quickly.
Would O'Leary carry on paying you £24 net per hour if the tax man suddenly ups the amount O'Leary must pay him on your sector pay? I doubt it .....
It is well known that your Sector pay cheques come seperate to your wage slips each month. Its well known that its dodgy.
Be warned, the HMRC are chasing airlines regarding flying pay. Ryanair are no different and are not above UK law.
If I were you, I would think twice about just how secure your pay really is. We have had to, you might too.
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From: Europe
This is my final comment on the subject.
I was trying to be helpful by reporting what a Ryanair Stansted Captain earns AT THE MOMENT.
I don't have a crystal ball and cannot predict what may happen in the future, quite honestly I live for today and tomorrow is just that, anything could happen.
I know a lot of people have great difficulty believing it but most Ryanair Captains are well paid, happy and enjoy their work.
I was trying to be helpful by reporting what a Ryanair Stansted Captain earns AT THE MOMENT.
I don't have a crystal ball and cannot predict what may happen in the future, quite honestly I live for today and tomorrow is just that, anything could happen.
I know a lot of people have great difficulty believing it but most Ryanair Captains are well paid, happy and enjoy their work.