Pay For an Interview?
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From: UTC +8
It's a supply vs. demand issue; current & qualified on type vs. not so qualified or wannabe.
Many years ago I got an offer to fly the Hadj; having been current and qualified on type; I was hired over the phone. Roundtrip transportation and hotel was provided next day; the "interview" was just an acquaintance session.
Many years ago I got an offer to fly the Hadj; having been current and qualified on type; I was hired over the phone. Roundtrip transportation and hotel was provided next day; the "interview" was just an acquaintance session.
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From: EU
years ago, hired on the phone :"can you be here monday?", now we have to pay for type rating, interview, and even hours on type(ATLAS JET, INDIGO,...).
I think it 's the only market which tries to suck all your money and blood!
I think it 's the only market which tries to suck all your money and blood!
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From: Scotland.
Pay For an Interview?
'Should have made this a poll! I am definitely not a wannabe.'
Maybe my reply to this thread is late, but here goes: they must have been interested in you to ask you to come for an interview. Therefore the least that they can do is reimburse reasonable travel expenses. You, in turn, are probably using a day of your leave entitlement to attend the interview. Regardless, if they are not prepared to at least pay expenses give them a miss.
Maybe my reply to this thread is late, but here goes: they must have been interested in you to ask you to come for an interview. Therefore the least that they can do is reimburse reasonable travel expenses. You, in turn, are probably using a day of your leave entitlement to attend the interview. Regardless, if they are not prepared to at least pay expenses give them a miss.
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From: Salop
I kind of go along with what Rich66 is saying too !
I don't know which airline has called you for interview, but, in other industries, e.g. engineering, if you start getting messed around at interview stage you have to ask 'Do I really want to work for these people ?'. Same to be said about the interviewer. I've met one or two and thought, 'Do I really want to work for this tosser?'
Anecdotally, in some of these instances, I've known other people who either got the job, took the job, or went to work for XYZ later on. They all told me what Mr.X or company XYZ were live to work for and confirmed my suspicions ! Toss !!
CG
I don't know which airline has called you for interview, but, in other industries, e.g. engineering, if you start getting messed around at interview stage you have to ask 'Do I really want to work for these people ?'. Same to be said about the interviewer. I've met one or two and thought, 'Do I really want to work for this tosser?'
Anecdotally, in some of these instances, I've known other people who either got the job, took the job, or went to work for XYZ later on. They all told me what Mr.X or company XYZ were live to work for and confirmed my suspicions ! Toss !!
CG
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From: canada
reasonable cost for jobs
Is it reasonable to pay for travel or interview etc? I am with a proffessional recruitment firm we do not charge fees to pilots. The answer is quite simple is it justifiable to you the individual? Thats it. I personally do not and would pay as there are always other choices out there. If the potential employer is cheap from the get go it follows that they will be that way in the future, is that where you want to work. The recruitment firms usually charge 10 to 30 % of 1st years salary and they usually pass incidental costs on to the employer. Tell them to ge t stuffed.
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From: on the dark side of the moon!
paying for an interview or paying to fly is not exactly what I call a job...
work your way up the ladder...don't buy it...many futur colleagues and recruiters will give you a hard time if you go down that route...
when you start paying, there's no end...first type, first 500Hrs, second type, upgrade...
work your way up the ladder...don't buy it...many futur colleagues and recruiters will give you a hard time if you go down that route...
when you start paying, there's no end...first type, first 500Hrs, second type, upgrade...
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From: Dre's mum's house
As Glueball said, it's down to supply and demand and your unique skills.
I've been offered jobs over the telephone without an interview, basically " When can you start we are desperate" and also had to jump through the hoops, sim, interview, trick cyclist.
When it was the "please start tomorrow" they were more than happy to pay because the relative cost of an air ticket and accom was less than having a non op jet.
When it was jumping through hoops it was all paid for by yours truly.
I've been offered jobs over the telephone without an interview, basically " When can you start we are desperate" and also had to jump through the hoops, sim, interview, trick cyclist.
When it was the "please start tomorrow" they were more than happy to pay because the relative cost of an air ticket and accom was less than having a non op jet.
When it was jumping through hoops it was all paid for by yours truly.
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From: Europe
No Pay
Pay for travel to an interview and the ride is not a serious offer. If you are successfull applicant, it will be reimbursed, prevents Airlines from getting people who want to see a exotic place for 2 or 3 days...
Serious Airllines offer you a transportation in from one of theire Airports they fly to next to your residence. From the residence to the Airport is your expense. You live in ALC but they fly to MAD or BCN then you have to settle the trip to MAD/BCN and the rest is on them.
If I would have to buy a Ticket from them to fly to XYZ then I would rather think they want to increase the payload and not the number of Employees.
But I am sure there a people out who pay to fly and get expirience. So they pay for to get the work as well and wait until the big bucks are flushing. That time is over I believe.
Fly safe and land happy
NG
Serious Airllines offer you a transportation in from one of theire Airports they fly to next to your residence. From the residence to the Airport is your expense. You live in ALC but they fly to MAD or BCN then you have to settle the trip to MAD/BCN and the rest is on them.
If I would have to buy a Ticket from them to fly to XYZ then I would rather think they want to increase the payload and not the number of Employees.
But I am sure there a people out who pay to fly and get expirience. So they pay for to get the work as well and wait until the big bucks are flushing. That time is over I believe.
Fly safe and land happy
NG
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From: Derby
If you really want it.
Then you have to spend it.
I spent 250£ for a flight back and forth and two days accomodation.
The only bits I needn't pay for were the tests.
I have now a company who is paying for the flight back and forth.
1/60
I spent 250£ for a flight back and forth and two days accomodation.
The only bits I needn't pay for were the tests.
I have now a company who is paying for the flight back and forth.
1/60
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From: Europe
By all means, I would love to be reimbursed by the company offering me an interview, but on the other hand; in this day and age of airlines, think about the possibility that IF they were obligated to pay for all expenses, wouldn't they start looking for candidates near the location of the interview just to save a buck or two? So then you would be discriminated for living far away from your potential new employer!
I think it's fare that if you apply for a job, you see to it that you make your way to the interview. If you look at the potential employer as a long term commitment and not a stepping stone, the chances of employment should be worth paying for the travel and accomodation.
This really is a no-brainer compared to paying for type rating/line training and/or half-pay until base check etc...... THAT'S where the REAL scam is taking place....!
/glider
I think it's fare that if you apply for a job, you see to it that you make your way to the interview. If you look at the potential employer as a long term commitment and not a stepping stone, the chances of employment should be worth paying for the travel and accomodation.
This really is a no-brainer compared to paying for type rating/line training and/or half-pay until base check etc...... THAT'S where the REAL scam is taking place....!
/glider
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From: Room 757
I once flew from San Francisco, CA to San Salvador, El Salvador for an interview with TACA. I was beyond excited at the possibility of flying an Airbus. Turns out they wanted to interview me for an engineer position in their Aeroman aircraft maintenance facility. It was a $900 round trip ticket. The worst part is that they have a direct flight from SFO to San Salvador on which, even after I asked, they did not offer to get me on. This is obviously an extremely crappy situation, but things like this do happen.
My other concern is that if they are not paying anything to interview you, the selection process may not be as rigorous. They will probably invite ten times more people than what they really need. You will make your way across the world just to find out you just "sort of" fit the profile.
rcl
My other concern is that if they are not paying anything to interview you, the selection process may not be as rigorous. They will probably invite ten times more people than what they really need. You will make your way across the world just to find out you just "sort of" fit the profile.
rcl
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From: france
To me, paying towards the interview per se is sickening (Ryanair).
Paying for accomodation, transportation, restaurant and so on is absolutely standard. Interviews for Air France take 2 days. We all paid for hotac, train/airplane, etc...which I find is normal and fair. That is also the case in any industry when you're trying to knock down a deal on a job somewhere else. As someone mentionned earlier, it is not their fault if you live elsewhere.
Paying for accomodation, transportation, restaurant and so on is absolutely standard. Interviews for Air France take 2 days. We all paid for hotac, train/airplane, etc...which I find is normal and fair. That is also the case in any industry when you're trying to knock down a deal on a job somewhere else. As someone mentionned earlier, it is not their fault if you live elsewhere.
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That may be normal practice in many cheap companies (although it surprises me that AF is the same).
I never paid for an interview EVER, and this is my 4th company that I'm working for. After having been hired, I always had my expenses reimbursed if there were any.
True, you may have to pay for your own traveling costs to get to the interview, and for the hotel as well. But even that should normally be provided by the company. Respectable airlines will do so.
Think of it this way: If they are interested in you, after you have submitted your CV and papers, then it is their invitation.
Unless, of course, you consider yourself being so lucky to having gotten their attention in the first place, in which case you should kiss their a$$ and pay them money.
The problem is, that during times like these, you don't really have much choice if you're out of a job. Airlines take advantage of that.
I'll be honest with you: If I were desperate, I would probably do the same thing.
But it ain't right.
I never paid for an interview EVER, and this is my 4th company that I'm working for. After having been hired, I always had my expenses reimbursed if there were any.
True, you may have to pay for your own traveling costs to get to the interview, and for the hotel as well. But even that should normally be provided by the company. Respectable airlines will do so.
Think of it this way: If they are interested in you, after you have submitted your CV and papers, then it is their invitation.
Unless, of course, you consider yourself being so lucky to having gotten their attention in the first place, in which case you should kiss their a$$ and pay them money.
The problem is, that during times like these, you don't really have much choice if you're out of a job. Airlines take advantage of that.
I'll be honest with you: If I were desperate, I would probably do the same thing.
But it ain't right.
