Pay For an Interview?
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Pay For an Interview?
I have been invited to attend an interview but I have to provide my own travel and accommodation. In other interviews in the past, for my present job, I had all expenses paid. Am I crazy to go and spend my own money for an interview, or how common is this? Am I just being cheap? Seems a lot of money for them to maybe just say 'no.'
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In my humble opinion they have given you an interview, it isn't their problem where you live, it's not their fault where you live either, so why should they stump up the expenses?
As to whether you say no or not is down to your own personal circumstance, are you a 200hr wannabe that is desperate for his 1st job? if so it's a complete no brainer.
As to whether you say no or not is down to your own personal circumstance, are you a 200hr wannabe that is desperate for his 1st job? if so it's a complete no brainer.
Guessing your other just was non-aviation.
I'm in a specialised area of IT and have had business class tickets, 5 star accomodation and car hire paid for just to get to an interview, but that is because there aren't so many people with the qualifications and experience I have in IT, whereas aviation is a little different.
Not to mention the fact that many people WILL pay for it themselves, so why incur the extra cost when the next person will pay for it?
Aviation is unique, name me one other profession where people are willing to pay for experience?
I used to work on tourist boats and know that everyone on the bridge worked their way up to their qualifications and didn't buy the sea time required to attain the next level.
(Sorry to go off on a tangent here)
I'm in a specialised area of IT and have had business class tickets, 5 star accomodation and car hire paid for just to get to an interview, but that is because there aren't so many people with the qualifications and experience I have in IT, whereas aviation is a little different.
Not to mention the fact that many people WILL pay for it themselves, so why incur the extra cost when the next person will pay for it?
Aviation is unique, name me one other profession where people are willing to pay for experience?
I used to work on tourist boats and know that everyone on the bridge worked their way up to their qualifications and didn't buy the sea time required to attain the next level.
(Sorry to go off on a tangent here)
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Sadly this is very common in aviation, I guess it depends how much you need the job? If you are in a position to tell them that they must pay for the expenses then do it, otherwise you're just going to have to grin and bear it. 
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XS - if you don't mind me asking what kind of distance is involved here?
I guess if the job was worth the outlay of cash then you would just have to bite the bullet (i.e. a CX interview back east) but yeah this industry is a joke when it comes to things like this...
I guess if the job was worth the outlay of cash then you would just have to bite the bullet (i.e. a CX interview back east) but yeah this industry is a joke when it comes to things like this...
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A few years ago, virtually all airlines would help out with expenses, even give you tickets on their own airlines or one of their code share partners etc. accom was usually up to you though depending on how far you had to travel I suppose.
I interviewed with Atlas Jet early on this year and I had to fork out for my own hotel/ flights to from Istanbul etc. The Sim was paid for by them but nothing too tricky if you had done your home work.
As an earlier poster has mentioned already, you have already been "Interviewed" by them, obviously without you realising it. These sort of interviews are unusual in UK ( but do happen) normally over the phone but these days also over the Internet too!
It depends who you are considering going to work for and the distance involved really. Sounds like providing you don't "Disgrace" yourself, you should be OK. I nearly went to Atlas Jet but had a better offer a few months later whilst I was awaiting Work permits/Visa and things.
Had I not had the other offer I would have certainly gone to JED with Atlas. A friend of mine decided to go with his family and he is really enjoying a different way of life for a couple of years.
This Life /Career is what you make of it or not, as the case may be. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made in the short term for a longer end game.
Good luck on what ever you decide to do.
BR.
I interviewed with Atlas Jet early on this year and I had to fork out for my own hotel/ flights to from Istanbul etc. The Sim was paid for by them but nothing too tricky if you had done your home work.
As an earlier poster has mentioned already, you have already been "Interviewed" by them, obviously without you realising it. These sort of interviews are unusual in UK ( but do happen) normally over the phone but these days also over the Internet too!
It depends who you are considering going to work for and the distance involved really. Sounds like providing you don't "Disgrace" yourself, you should be OK. I nearly went to Atlas Jet but had a better offer a few months later whilst I was awaiting Work permits/Visa and things.
Had I not had the other offer I would have certainly gone to JED with Atlas. A friend of mine decided to go with his family and he is really enjoying a different way of life for a couple of years.
This Life /Career is what you make of it or not, as the case may be. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made in the short term for a longer end game.
Good luck on what ever you decide to do.
BR.
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Am I crazy to go and spend my own money for an interview?
Yes.
You're applying to an airline for heavens sake. Not a bank or some other non-transportation focussed field. Plus you're applying as a pilot. I thought there was such a thing as professional courtesy?
Yes.
You're applying to an airline for heavens sake. Not a bank or some other non-transportation focussed field. Plus you're applying as a pilot. I thought there was such a thing as professional courtesy?
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Paying for an interview - get used to it....
Im a retired Capt from one of the main lines working as a recuriter for Politiri Aviation and our Contract Flight crew operations. I can tell you that carriers used to cough up good coin to get you to an interview, but very seldom anymore. There are a hell of a lot more pilots available now than there was 10 years ago and in some areas of the world rates are dropping because guys are bidding on jobs.
Like most other HR firms, we charge you to come to a central point for an interview - but remember, you have already been pre selected at that point - the interview is for a face to face ON CAMERA as well as a security and background check. And, at the end of the interview, we usually give you cash towards your expenses.
Believe me when I tell you, I have been on both sides of the table and the interviews are not money makers. Fact of the matter is, it is common now a days, but if they dont give you a STIPEND towards your costs, dont go to the interview.
Like most other HR firms, we charge you to come to a central point for an interview - but remember, you have already been pre selected at that point - the interview is for a face to face ON CAMERA as well as a security and background check. And, at the end of the interview, we usually give you cash towards your expenses.
Believe me when I tell you, I have been on both sides of the table and the interviews are not money makers. Fact of the matter is, it is common now a days, but if they dont give you a STIPEND towards your costs, dont go to the interview.
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There has to be a big difference between what it would cost you to go to their interview and what the airline would pay for you - tickets on their own service or ID tickets on a codeshare/arrangement if they have one, crew rates for Hotac, etc. Whatever about covering all your costs, surely if the airline aren't arsed in assisting and making it cheaper for you by booking you into a hotel at crew rates minimum, what does that tell you about them? If the costs to you are small, suck it up if you want the job - if they're large, you're hardly being cheeky asking them if they can get you an ID ticket or book the hotel for you at their reduced rates?
Equally, anyone who insists on business class tickets and 5 star Hotac to do an interview is living on another planet, unless they're very valuable or flying a hell of a long way or doing an interview in a not-so-nice country.
Equally, anyone who insists on business class tickets and 5 star Hotac to do an interview is living on another planet, unless they're very valuable or flying a hell of a long way or doing an interview in a not-so-nice country.
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Really don't understand what the fuss is about, as a poster said earlier on the thread it's not the fault of the airline in question if you live a long distance from them.
Did the airline approach you initially for the job out of the blue for the job or did you approach them and apply for the job??
I know that some pilots have a reputation for being money grabbing and cosseted, this merely reinforces the impression.
Did the airline approach you initially for the job out of the blue for the job or did you approach them and apply for the job??
I know that some pilots have a reputation for being money grabbing and cosseted, this merely reinforces the impression.
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I was going to post this anyways, but now seems an appropriate time.
Got an e-mail from a old mate back in Canada yesterday, simply said;
Xsbank; I would say that if your experienced, and I'm guessing you are, I would broach it with the airline and ask them are they willing to reimburse, or pay up front for travel costs. You can tell them that this is the first time you've been expected to pay for this kind of stuff. If they say, no, then it depends on how badly you want it. Can't hurt to ask though !!
Read the article above posted in the Globe and Mail, it might make you a bit more forthright ;-)
Mind you , we all know these articles are wildly inaccurate, but then again there may be some truth in it !!
What I'd like to know is
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Which frickn airline is he talking about ?? Sounds to me like a tad over egged !!
Cheers,
CG.
Got an e-mail from a old mate back in Canada yesterday, simply said;
Read the article above posted in the Globe and Mail, it might make you a bit more forthright ;-)
Mind you , we all know these articles are wildly inaccurate, but then again there may be some truth in it !!
What I'd like to know is
Travis Griffin graduates next year from the school, but he'll return to his native Ireland to work, where he can make a more comfortable living.
"It's 50,000 to 60,000 euros to start off, and then you get benefits on top of that, so it's better at home," Griffin said.
"It's 50,000 to 60,000 euros to start off, and then you get benefits on top of that, so it's better at home," Griffin said.
Which frickn airline is he talking about ?? Sounds to me like a tad over egged !!
Cheers,
CG.
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You might be interested to know that in Germany (if it hasn't changed) a prospective employer is required to pay for your travel costs to attend an interview. IIRC it was even specified how you should travel (2nd class rail), etc.
As mentioned by someone else, in my area of work nobody would dream of asking you to travel at your own expense. I believe that is also the case in every other job requiring minimally qualified people.
As mentioned by someone else, in my area of work nobody would dream of asking you to travel at your own expense. I believe that is also the case in every other job requiring minimally qualified people.
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I would think it should depend on who's employing. For example, when I was interviewed, the costs of airfare were paid. The interviews took place on an Island, so the chances of local applicants were very slim, and jobs were for all over the UK. Luckily, it was a day trip, but you could select which gateway to fly in from, but had to make your own way there.
BA doesn't pay, but then you are interviewed in London for a London based job. Stands to reason, you would most likely need to be London domiciled or capable of that to fit in, so why should they pay. In a similar vein, Cathay employs a lot of Ex-Pats, and as the pool of these are not sat in Hong Kong already, expecting them to stump up to fly there is a little unreasonable.
Now paying to have a CV accepted is taking the mickey, but I only know of one company that stoops that low.....
BA doesn't pay, but then you are interviewed in London for a London based job. Stands to reason, you would most likely need to be London domiciled or capable of that to fit in, so why should they pay. In a similar vein, Cathay employs a lot of Ex-Pats, and as the pool of these are not sat in Hong Kong already, expecting them to stump up to fly there is a little unreasonable.
Now paying to have a CV accepted is taking the mickey, but I only know of one company that stoops that low.....