Does BA have a Senior FO pay scale?
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Does BA have a Senior FO pay scale?
I think (not absolutely sure) that BA has, or used to have, a Senior FO status and pay-rate?
If so could someone in the know explain? I'm interested in at what number of years it kicks in and for how long. Also, is the pay-rate higher than for a regular FO and by how much?
Reason for asking is that at my company, during current contract negotiations, FO's are disgruntled at the level of stagnation and want a higher percentage of Captain's pay in the future in lieu of the longer time to left seat upgrade. I was wondering if instituting a Senior FO status might just 'fill the gap'.
Thoughts anyone?
If so could someone in the know explain? I'm interested in at what number of years it kicks in and for how long. Also, is the pay-rate higher than for a regular FO and by how much?
Reason for asking is that at my company, during current contract negotiations, FO's are disgruntled at the level of stagnation and want a higher percentage of Captain's pay in the future in lieu of the longer time to left seat upgrade. I was wondering if instituting a Senior FO status might just 'fill the gap'.
Thoughts anyone?
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Phily
Short answer is NO.
Basically in BA you start as a lowly FO not matter what your qualifications. After 3 years and provided you have a full ATPL you become a SFO.
If you don't have a full ATPL at the end of 5 years you then will not move up the pay scale. i.e you will stay at Pay Point 5 until you get the full ATPL.
The pay scale is the same - only difference is whether you came direct from flying school (TEP) or have experience (DEP). TEP pay less than DEP for first 5 years.
Management like to have an interview for the SFO upgrade, but it is not compulsory. It usually runs like this:
Manager "Are you interested in ever doing a management role?"
Pilot "You can't lure me to the dark side, Darth!"
T'bug
Short answer is NO.
Basically in BA you start as a lowly FO not matter what your qualifications. After 3 years and provided you have a full ATPL you become a SFO.
If you don't have a full ATPL at the end of 5 years you then will not move up the pay scale. i.e you will stay at Pay Point 5 until you get the full ATPL.
The pay scale is the same - only difference is whether you came direct from flying school (TEP) or have experience (DEP). TEP pay less than DEP for first 5 years.
Management like to have an interview for the SFO upgrade, but it is not compulsory. It usually runs like this:
Manager "Are you interested in ever doing a management role?"
Pilot "You can't lure me to the dark side, Darth!"
T'bug
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From: fort sheridan, il
phily...is your airline mine? is it the one that used to serve colodny burgers? back when we had the best deal in the industry...before management made such horrible mistakes?
used to fly the super 30 and bubba jet.
used to fly the super 30 and bubba jet.
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Pretty much as Thunderbug says except his timings are a little off. You become an SFO after 4 years, and then the next hoop to jump through is after 7 years. At each stage there is a management interview. If you do not have a FULL ATPL after seven years your seniority gets frozen - they cannot under UK law stop your progression up the salary scales - though they will still try this on. Hope this helps.
