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worked for EJ and Go,what a difference1!!
great,friendly people in Go,good rosters,have a life at last.Recommend them to any prospective employees,(especially if you live in bonny scotland?)
great,friendly people in Go,good rosters,have a life at last.Recommend them to any prospective employees,(especially if you live in bonny scotland?)
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Very interesting Capt Kirk, I'm a 737 driver living in aforesaid country, and very interested in GO, any chance you could send details of their Captains remuneration package to me at [email protected]
Thanks a million.
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I've been with eJ for longer than most and don't particularly want to get into slanging match about the relative merits of either Company.
However, I must question the fidelity of this posting and I'm curious about the true identity of Capt Kirk. He claims to have worked for both eJ and GO and presumeably from his post he is at GO now. My doubts caused because when Go started one eJ Trg Capt went there. He was a gentleman of the old school and left due to family circumstances which made residing near Stansted very desirable; I am absolutely certain that he and Capt Kirk are not the same person. One other very experienced capt left eJ to join GO about 2 or 3 yrs ago but with the knowledge of working for both Company's, he rejoined eJ 6 months ago!
No other pilots have left eJ to join GO. One Capt resigned to do so earlier this year but changed his mind. One eJ F/O has resigned to join GO at Bristol and I think this is because he lives down that way.
So can't think who Capt Kirk could be; perhaps someone who left eJ and arrived in Go via a third airline? If so - 3 airlines in 3 years??? Perhaps there is another explanation!
[ 21 August 2001: Message edited by: Gypsy ]
[ 21 August 2001: Message edited by: Gypsy ]
However, I must question the fidelity of this posting and I'm curious about the true identity of Capt Kirk. He claims to have worked for both eJ and GO and presumeably from his post he is at GO now. My doubts caused because when Go started one eJ Trg Capt went there. He was a gentleman of the old school and left due to family circumstances which made residing near Stansted very desirable; I am absolutely certain that he and Capt Kirk are not the same person. One other very experienced capt left eJ to join GO about 2 or 3 yrs ago but with the knowledge of working for both Company's, he rejoined eJ 6 months ago!
No other pilots have left eJ to join GO. One Capt resigned to do so earlier this year but changed his mind. One eJ F/O has resigned to join GO at Bristol and I think this is because he lives down that way.
So can't think who Capt Kirk could be; perhaps someone who left eJ and arrived in Go via a third airline? If so - 3 airlines in 3 years??? Perhaps there is another explanation!
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Yes it would be good to get there views - I know of at least 4 capts that have joined eJ from GO this year and there may be others that I haven't met.
Capt Kirks lack of response rather confirms my suspicion - I smell a rat!
albinexpress - be warned and please note that eJ's Edinburgh and Glasgow bases become fully op in the next few weeks - ad went out internally for volunteers to move but I guess there may be room for new joiners as well.
Capt Kirks lack of response rather confirms my suspicion - I smell a rat!
albinexpress - be warned and please note that eJ's Edinburgh and Glasgow bases become fully op in the next few weeks - ad went out internally for volunteers to move but I guess there may be room for new joiners as well.
Actually I know of an easyJet Skipper who has joined us in the last month or two. From the Liverpool base I think...
It it is my view based on limited experience that movement between FRA/Easy/Go is to do with geography.
WWW
It it is my view based on limited experience that movement between FRA/Easy/Go is to do with geography.
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WWW - in general I agree with your second comment although it is not exclusively the case. Your first remark has helped me to complete the little jigsaw that this thread created. I still believe that my earlier posting regarding pilots that have 'resigned' from easyJet to join GO is accurate.
Perhaps at this point, it might be helpful if Capt Kirk would care to enlighten us as to his reasons for leaving easyJet.
Perhaps at this point, it might be helpful if Capt Kirk would care to enlighten us as to his reasons for leaving easyJet.
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Oleo, what you hear is correct. Many F/O's are only flying 30-40 hrs per month (I have done 4hrs in the last six days,normal roster i.e no leave). Captains however tend to fly approx 75hrs per month.
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Hang on! FO's flying 30-40 hrs per month?!!
That astounds me. On the one hand it sounds like heaven but on the other I'd be a bit concerned about profitability.
Can someone please elaborate?
Cheers,
WWW
That astounds me. On the one hand it sounds like heaven but on the other I'd be a bit concerned about profitability.
Can someone please elaborate?
Cheers,
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Yes I can. 30 to 40 a month is probably the extreme; most F/o's I talk to in eJ are doing more than that. Reason for the lower figures is the huge recruitment and then line training of large numbers of pilots for the increasing number of 737-700's that are arriving all the time. Tends to leave the F/O's a little less busy than the Capts who are doing about 70 - 75 per mth. Trg capts more.
WWW - please don't worry about easyjets profitability. We've been in profit every year except the first which is a pretty good record and we are again on target for a significant profit this year. As you've raised the matter, whats the record of profits at GO?
Capt Kirk - we're still waiting!
People in glass houses should not throw stones.
WWW - please don't worry about easyjets profitability. We've been in profit every year except the first which is a pretty good record and we are again on target for a significant profit this year. As you've raised the matter, whats the record of profits at GO?
Capt Kirk - we're still waiting!
People in glass houses should not throw stones.
OK gypsy - cool. I wasn't having a pop at easyJet regards profitability. As I am sure you are well aware the classic model for low cost ops is a high utilisation of flightcrew and thus the 30 - 40hrs issue seemed remarkable.
I don't think there is a drop of animosity between the pilot groups of Easy/Ryan/Go/Buzz and long may that continue.
As you ask Go-Fly Ltd filed £4million profit at the close of Y3 accounts. Which was £4million ahead of target.
Cheers,
WWW
I don't think there is a drop of animosity between the pilot groups of Easy/Ryan/Go/Buzz and long may that continue.
As you ask Go-Fly Ltd filed £4million profit at the close of Y3 accounts. Which was £4million ahead of target.
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Great and thats fine and please note I didn't begin this thread.
You will also know that one the threats to Easy, Ryans and Go is the possibility of not be able to recruit sufficient pilots for the business, so this thread began by a GO pilot could be regarded as unhelpful for easyJet.
So as Capt Kirk started this thread it is only reasonable to ask him to tell us the whole story about why he left Easy.
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You will also know that one the threats to Easy, Ryans and Go is the possibility of not be able to recruit sufficient pilots for the business, so this thread began by a GO pilot could be regarded as unhelpful for easyJet.
So as Capt Kirk started this thread it is only reasonable to ask him to tell us the whole story about why he left Easy.
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I agree with Gypsy,this is a very suspicious thread for the reasons already stated. Possibly started by Go management to entice Scottish pilots working for easy????
Oh and about 40 hours a month for me at easy too.Almost like part time work!!!
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Oh and about 40 hours a month for me at easy too.Almost like part time work!!!
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Twinjet,
God, don't we all love conspiracy theories eh?
I think you'll find the originator of this thread worked for easy and "resigned", then asked to rescind his resignation, which easy declined.
This is his little way of giving two fingers to a company that was happy to see the back of him
God, don't we all love conspiracy theories eh?
I think you'll find the originator of this thread worked for easy and "resigned", then asked to rescind his resignation, which easy declined.
This is his little way of giving two fingers to a company that was happy to see the back of him
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ADC - I think you could be wrong there, but I doubt the originator wants to get it all out in the open.
Capt Kirk - I'll get off your case now. I think PPrune is great for folk to give there views on what is good or bad about their own airline. With the difficulty that all the low cost airlines have with recruiting to meet their expansion plans, I don't think it is appropriate for any of us to use these pages to slagg off our competitors, in what could be possibly viewed as a sabotage operation
Capt Kirk - I'll get off your case now. I think PPrune is great for folk to give there views on what is good or bad about their own airline. With the difficulty that all the low cost airlines have with recruiting to meet their expansion plans, I don't think it is appropriate for any of us to use these pages to slagg off our competitors, in what could be possibly viewed as a sabotage operation
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Oleo and WWW, I think gypsy is right. As we are doing so much line training, the regular guys on the line tend to lose out on the flying. I would dearly love to get close to the 100hrs / 28 day limit (mind you,i've never been near it, must be knackering) but at the moment it does not seem likely. Been rostered 38hrs flying for September,but with 3 new -700's just arrived the last 5 weeks hopefully it will pick up!
Oh and WWW I agree, never detected any annimosity either!
Oh and WWW I agree, never detected any annimosity either!
OK Chaps - dumb question time..
I'm long haul based LGW - living in N Ireland. I know the EZ BFS base plan is going ahead and am keen to work from home. Never having flown short-haul I have no yardstick so need to ask the following obvious questions:
1. Wazzitlike?
2. How hard do you work? IE average monthly hours and how demanding is that?
3. Rostered days per month?
That's all fer now.
Thanks for your time...
I'm long haul based LGW - living in N Ireland. I know the EZ BFS base plan is going ahead and am keen to work from home. Never having flown short-haul I have no yardstick so need to ask the following obvious questions:
1. Wazzitlike?
2. How hard do you work? IE average monthly hours and how demanding is that?
3. Rostered days per month?
That's all fer now.
Thanks for your time...