Should Ryan Air Pilots Strike???
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Should Ryan Air Pilots Strike???
If that idiot O'leary decided to go on strike today, what would happen tomorrow?? ....Nothing, absolutely nothing! The Company would still function normally and no disruption would occur. Therefore, his contribution to the daily operations of Ryan Air IMO is meaningless.If Ryan Air Pilots were brave enough to go on strike today or indeed call in sick on masse, the Company operations would be crippled tomorrow. Therefore we actually have all the power and I suggest its about time we used some of it.
Yes, it is conceivable that not all bases would be supportive, but not all bases are needed for it to hurt the Company. In fact just one major base like Dublin would achieve excellent results.
Yes it would affect our livelihood and it also presents some risk, but hey, life wasnt meant to be easy. It is a necessary sacrafice that we all should make united as one.
Sure, it would hurt many thousands of innocent passengers, however most of those pax actually believe the BS propaganda that O'leary & Co often spin about us and hence there is probably little sympathy from travelling pax anyhow.
We need to look after ourselves and our profession and to strike is a last resort measure, one which is well overdue. Personally I would support such action to show that clown O'leary, who is really boss!!
Over to you guys now for opinions pls.
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im not very experienced still being a student pilot but i think that Ryanair would just take pick of the many pilots who would do anything to fly a 737 
. I think the current pilots who just get laid off...
Just my opinion... im probably wrong
lol.
. I think the current pilots who just get laid off...Just my opinion... im probably wrong
lol.
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If you take a mildly selfish view then its a great idea. Go on strike and try and improve the T&C's but have another job lined up cos you will need it once the dust has settled. One thing is for sure and that MOL will get revenge eventually. Just look at how he has worn down the Dublin pilots who held out for the 800 rating.
I think what FR needs is a regime change starting at the top. Also another couple of big court losses wouldn't go amiss.
I think what FR needs is a regime change starting at the top. Also another couple of big court losses wouldn't go amiss.
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Does not make a difference if I'm FR or not, but Curious to know if the orignator of this thread is a FR pilot? If not... are you going to lead the way for a strike, and pay strike benefits for those who elect to walk out on your learned advice? I love the arm chair quarterbacks... full of advise and empty of experience.
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This has been hardly an encouraging list of responses. It's to be expected I suppose, given Ryan Air is full of Pilots who have essentially 'bought' themselves an airline Job and even worse, probably worked for free at some stage. This is often referred to as 'scraping the bottom of the barrel'.
It's no wonder that our industry is going down the drain. Thanks to that horrible word, CADET. People who go and work for the likes of M&S and then wake up one morning and suddenly say "I want to be an airline pilot" and then buy themselves a job.
Then in the process, happily bend over and be screwed by someone like O'leary.
Thanks for vandalising what was once a prestigiuos career.
It's no wonder that our industry is going down the drain. Thanks to that horrible word, CADET. People who go and work for the likes of M&S and then wake up one morning and suddenly say "I want to be an airline pilot" and then buy themselves a job.
Then in the process, happily bend over and be screwed by someone like O'leary.
Thanks for vandalising what was once a prestigiuos career.
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00cock
So if you work for the 'likes of M&S' you basically have not rights to become an airline pilot because they are spoiling it for the lucky few and any airline that takes you will be 'scrapping the bottom of the barrel,?
Who the
do you think you are!!
Some people born with out daddies money or have missed the chance of a BA sponsorship have had to work hard for many years in the likes of M&S before they can even dream of affording the training to become an airline pilot.
Don't blame the cadets. They are a product of all the FTO's and Airlines since 9/11. The FTO's sell the dream very well and the airlines then take advantage as by the time they get to the likes of MOL they are that financially committed there is no other option for them with out drowning in debt.
As for whether or not the ryanair pilots strike its their decision and I feel sure that if it ever is discused it would not be on a public forum such as this.
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So if you work for the 'likes of M&S' you basically have not rights to become an airline pilot because they are spoiling it for the lucky few and any airline that takes you will be 'scrapping the bottom of the barrel,?
Who the
do you think you are!!Some people born with out daddies money or have missed the chance of a BA sponsorship have had to work hard for many years in the likes of M&S before they can even dream of affording the training to become an airline pilot.
Don't blame the cadets. They are a product of all the FTO's and Airlines since 9/11. The FTO's sell the dream very well and the airlines then take advantage as by the time they get to the likes of MOL they are that financially committed there is no other option for them with out drowning in debt.
As for whether or not the ryanair pilots strike its their decision and I feel sure that if it ever is discused it would not be on a public forum such as this.
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Brilliant, fantastic even....."00cock", the ultimate insult. Wish I thought of that.
Dude,
take two asprin and see your Doctor if pain persists....oh and by the way, whislt you're at the chemist, buy a jar of vaseline because you're going to need it!!
Dude,
take two asprin and see your Doctor if pain persists....oh and by the way, whislt you're at the chemist, buy a jar of vaseline because you're going to need it!!
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What a delightfully informing mature thread, obviously makes people happy throwing insults at random people?
Attitude goes a long way to making a profession look professional.....
YYZ
Attitude goes a long way to making a profession look professional.....
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I think it would be far more effective if we actually worked together for better T&C's than blaming each other for our current situation. By arguing all the time we are simply playing right into FR's hands, and handing victory to them on a plate. We need to get organised and fight the real problem which is FR, not each other.
The aviation market has changed beyond recognition since 9/11, and it's not just 'cadets' who have caused these problems. Flying a pax a/c has got a lot more expensive in recent years, with fuel prices, insurance costs, increased competition, increasing taxes and airport charges, environmental pressures, growing acquisition and leasing costs, higher engineering costs etc etc, meaning that costs have to be reduced elsewhere. One of the easiest places to cut back expenditure is obviously crew wages and T&C's, and getting the most out of your assets, hence flying upto 100hrs a month.
Long gone are the days where you could fly 50-60hrs a month and expect to get well paid, the money simply isn't there to support it.
Simply coming onto pprune a spouting a load of bks about cadets causing all the problems just shows a complete and utter lack of intelligence and understanding of the current commercial aviation situation! Seriously, more Flight International, less pprune!!
We desperately need less lethargy and more action. Ask yourself this, what have you done recently to improve the situation in FR?
The aviation market has changed beyond recognition since 9/11, and it's not just 'cadets' who have caused these problems. Flying a pax a/c has got a lot more expensive in recent years, with fuel prices, insurance costs, increased competition, increasing taxes and airport charges, environmental pressures, growing acquisition and leasing costs, higher engineering costs etc etc, meaning that costs have to be reduced elsewhere. One of the easiest places to cut back expenditure is obviously crew wages and T&C's, and getting the most out of your assets, hence flying upto 100hrs a month.
Long gone are the days where you could fly 50-60hrs a month and expect to get well paid, the money simply isn't there to support it.
Simply coming onto pprune a spouting a load of b
ks about cadets causing all the problems just shows a complete and utter lack of intelligence and understanding of the current commercial aviation situation! Seriously, more Flight International, less pprune!!We desperately need less lethargy and more action. Ask yourself this, what have you done recently to improve the situation in FR?
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Quoating 00clock
Brilliant, fantastic even....."00cock", the ultimate insult. Wish I thought of that.
Dude,
take two asprin and see your Doctor if pain persists....oh and by the way, whislt you're at the chemist, buy a jar of vaseline because you're going to need it!!
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You could go the doctors as well, but not for vasaline more so for your vocal diarrhoea.[ doctors prescription could well be to ask you to keep your mouth shut for sometime} and get some sickness tablets for the rest of us who have to listen to such crap.
Brilliant, fantastic even....."00cock", the ultimate insult. Wish I thought of that.
Dude,
take two asprin and see your Doctor if pain persists....oh and by the way, whislt you're at the chemist, buy a jar of vaseline because you're going to need it!!--------------------------------------
You could go the doctors as well, but not for vasaline more so for your vocal diarrhoea.[ doctors prescription could well be to ask you to keep your mouth shut for sometime} and get some sickness tablets for the rest of us who have to listen to such crap.
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Hi,
I think Flaps5speed180 has highlighted very relevant points re the Aviation industry. If the energy experts are to be believed then things are due to get much worse i.e with peak oil fast approaching, if not already passed, oil prices are set to soar in the next decade.
Climate change is a huge political issue. Here in Ireland the Green Party has just become a member of the ruling coalition government for the first time. An energy tax has been promised which will significantly affect low cost carriers like Ryanair. I believe the British Chancellor of the Exchequer has proposed a similar tax.
I know MOL is an arrogant individual who doesn't believe in consulation etc but he has helped hundreds if not thousands of young people realise their ambition to become a commercial pilot. Sure he availed of prevailing conditions post 911 and introduced the dreaded SSTR, but instead of blaming cadets who had no job or representation, why not blame existing pilots and their unions for not preventing it.
My son is an FO with FR and not bonded as a result of paying his own type rating. He earns pretty good money and is building his hours rapidly. He is not a great fan of FR but is happy that he is doing a job he loves and hopefully in a few years will have the experience and hours to move to one of the major carriers.
I think Flaps5speed180 has highlighted very relevant points re the Aviation industry. If the energy experts are to be believed then things are due to get much worse i.e with peak oil fast approaching, if not already passed, oil prices are set to soar in the next decade.
Climate change is a huge political issue. Here in Ireland the Green Party has just become a member of the ruling coalition government for the first time. An energy tax has been promised which will significantly affect low cost carriers like Ryanair. I believe the British Chancellor of the Exchequer has proposed a similar tax.
I know MOL is an arrogant individual who doesn't believe in consulation etc but he has helped hundreds if not thousands of young people realise their ambition to become a commercial pilot. Sure he availed of prevailing conditions post 911 and introduced the dreaded SSTR, but instead of blaming cadets who had no job or representation, why not blame existing pilots and their unions for not preventing it.
My son is an FO with FR and not bonded as a result of paying his own type rating. He earns pretty good money and is building his hours rapidly. He is not a great fan of FR but is happy that he is doing a job he loves and hopefully in a few years will have the experience and hours to move to one of the major carriers.
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hopefully in a few years will have the experience and hours to move to one of the major carriers.