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737 Captain,China.
11750 USD net + 8000USD Yearly bonus+145 USD/Hr above 240 hours in 3 consecutive months + 1000 USD/month for kids.
Fuel saving bonus
30 days OFF/year
7 paid days for unfit days
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11750 USD net + 8000USD Yearly bonus+145 USD/Hr above 240 hours in 3 consecutive months + 1000 USD/month for kids.
Fuel saving bonus
30 days OFF/year
7 paid days for unfit days
Lufthansa ID 90...
Improved Contract terms and conditions just arrived
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Got out in the nick of time...
Use to fly the EMB 145 for Transstates back in the U.S. for approx ~$6500 gross/month. Left the company a week before the furloughs began and got a job in Israel.
F/O pay in Israel on the Global 5000 - $8000 gross/month + pension and savings, no benefits - Net - $5066.
Captain pay in Israel on the Global 5000 - $12000 Starting gross/month.
Average of 300 hours / year.
Not the best, but it's definitely work. best of luck to allofyous!
F/O pay in Israel on the Global 5000 - $8000 gross/month + pension and savings, no benefits - Net - $5066.
Captain pay in Israel on the Global 5000 - $12000 Starting gross/month.
Average of 300 hours / year.
Not the best, but it's definitely work. best of luck to allofyous!
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Yr 10 SFO big UK Charter. MFF min 10days off a month, good package inc. pension LOL Medical, good lifestyle by industry standards, take home c.3900 GBP/month, command on the horizon, no major complaints, but.....
with ref.to the guy who was thinking of a career change. Personally, having started flying late in life, I wouldn;t do it, if I had the choice again. I bitterly miss and regret not having a normal lifestyle, like being off at weekends and able to lead a normal social life. Your domestic life can suffer too if the missus marries a guy who she expects would be home at normal times, but then isn't. I hear this complaint from many middle aged pilots.
Bearing in mind the terrible financial sacrifice that is required to get into the industry now, to me, its a no brainer, study hard and take up one of the many well paid professions and have normal life
. I'm actively discourageing my kids from following me. Daughter fancies being a GP, 150k a year, job security, fs pension, respect from your fellow man, Ok youv'e got to look at some pretty awful bodies, but for that money....!
with ref.to the guy who was thinking of a career change. Personally, having started flying late in life, I wouldn;t do it, if I had the choice again. I bitterly miss and regret not having a normal lifestyle, like being off at weekends and able to lead a normal social life. Your domestic life can suffer too if the missus marries a guy who she expects would be home at normal times, but then isn't. I hear this complaint from many middle aged pilots.
Bearing in mind the terrible financial sacrifice that is required to get into the industry now, to me, its a no brainer, study hard and take up one of the many well paid professions and have normal life
. I'm actively discourageing my kids from following me. Daughter fancies being a GP, 150k a year, job security, fs pension, respect from your fellow man, Ok youv'e got to look at some pretty awful bodies, but for that money....!
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take home
Train driver ...........SWT>>>>>>>> lon--exe---bristol
£4000pm before tax.........take home £2200 every month
8 months work a year.........max day 9.5hrs..............guaranteed hols (paid)
and ...........i always get a seat in the rush hour.......nb my union really does care about my terms and conditions
happy landings
pete
£4000pm before tax.........take home £2200 every month
8 months work a year.........max day 9.5hrs..............guaranteed hols (paid)
and ...........i always get a seat in the rush hour.......nb my union really does care about my terms and conditions
happy landings
pete
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Hi TAP, yes, fair comment about doctors, but employed GP's post qualification should be on c.80K. Self employed GP partners are on £120 plus. All figures are readily available. But more to the point, I work for one of the largest UK airlines, I know that there are only half a dozen TRE's who are near the 150k mark and about 300 pilots who are on £100k plus. Statistically, a small minority, and IMHO when they retire, will be the last of their kind to earn this level as pay and conditions continue to be cut back.
Whereas, GP's are large proportion of the doctors cohort, which is a lot of guys and gals earning big money and having a better lifestyle than we do.
Please don't don't think that a GP's life is without its problems, as its not. But, given a similer level of effort and intelligence required to get either job, the GP seem to have a better deal for pay, lifestyle, T&C's, pension, job security, public perception and longevity!
Talking to a 28 year old GP recently, he quoted " GP is now the job-of-choice for anyone in the NHS who wants a good lifestyle, unfortunately, thats made it very hard to get in the door"
Whereas, GP's are large proportion of the doctors cohort, which is a lot of guys and gals earning big money and having a better lifestyle than we do.
Please don't don't think that a GP's life is without its problems, as its not. But, given a similer level of effort and intelligence required to get either job, the GP seem to have a better deal for pay, lifestyle, T&C's, pension, job security, public perception and longevity!
Talking to a 28 year old GP recently, he quoted " GP is now the job-of-choice for anyone in the NHS who wants a good lifestyle, unfortunately, thats made it very hard to get in the door"
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a similer (sic) level of effort and intelligence required to get either job
Conversely, training and gaining employment as a pilot requires little other than a very large wallet, particularly nowadays. Academic qualifications are almost an irrelevance. When I see the written word from pilots, I am sometimes amazed at their inability to construct anything other than child like gobbledegook.
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Agreed!!
In agreement with above! Just taking a brief look at the bare minimums to get into the "job" (i.e. not necessarily ready to do either job properly, but in a position to say you're employed in that career)..
Airline Pilot : 18-24 months...
Doctor of Medicine: 5 Years....
Although that being said, I would prefer to be a pilot (naturally
)!! However, I'm not..and im jealous of all of you who are!! 
But to compare an airline pilot to a medical practitioner
Airline Pilot : 18-24 months...
Doctor of Medicine: 5 Years....
Although that being said, I would prefer to be a pilot (naturally
)!! However, I'm not..and im jealous of all of you who are!! But to compare an airline pilot to a medical practitioner
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Bad and pathetic
Captain A320 for a ultra low cost. About 6000 eur a month average. 50 some sectors and around 80 to 90 hours.
Pay own taxes from that, social security etc payments.
Captain A320 for a ultra low cost. About 6000 eur a month average. 50 some sectors and around 80 to 90 hours.
Pay own taxes from that, social security etc payments.
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Hi Time T and Lovezzin, only a few points,
1. Please read a post properly before replying. My post makes no comparison between the qualities of pilots versus doctors, my only comment was on pay differentials and quality of life.. Doctors and their Union have done themselves proud and pilots have not.
But since you have been a bit critical of us, I would add the following comment about your profession.
2, here in the UK the barrier to entering the medical profession has been considerably lowered over the last few years. So perhaps no-one is as smart as they'd like to think they are! If we were in 1979 I would agree with you.
3. I have not met a Cadet who does not have a degree of some type. So if you add the 3 yrs for the degree and the 2 years to get into the right seat of a jet. (and that assumes that you make it first time into jets!) that adds up to 5 years.
4."Becoming a pilot requires a huge amount of dilligence, application, self discipline and intelligence." Get it wrong, you die along with the 300 pax. Doctors just kill the patients one by one.
5. TT, personal pops about grammer are totally boring and by the way, can you read a doctors prescription!!?
Now really boys, just chill, if you re-read my posts I was supporting doctors not running anyone down.
1. Please read a post properly before replying. My post makes no comparison between the qualities of pilots versus doctors, my only comment was on pay differentials and quality of life.. Doctors and their Union have done themselves proud and pilots have not.
But since you have been a bit critical of us, I would add the following comment about your profession.
2, here in the UK the barrier to entering the medical profession has been considerably lowered over the last few years. So perhaps no-one is as smart as they'd like to think they are! If we were in 1979 I would agree with you.
3. I have not met a Cadet who does not have a degree of some type. So if you add the 3 yrs for the degree and the 2 years to get into the right seat of a jet. (and that assumes that you make it first time into jets!) that adds up to 5 years.
4."Becoming a pilot requires a huge amount of dilligence, application, self discipline and intelligence." Get it wrong, you die along with the 300 pax. Doctors just kill the patients one by one.
5. TT, personal pops about grammer are totally boring and by the way, can you read a doctors prescription!!?
Now really boys, just chill, if you re-read my posts I was supporting doctors not running anyone down.
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Enjoy your ground tour when it comes - especially if it's somewhere with lots of beach but no sea.
And were you aware that you can take the lump sum, and the pension and continue to be paid £4k a month? And you get more holidays (56 days I think it is).
You sound like you have a cushy number at the moment - if you enjoy living in Anglesey I guess - but will it always be thus? Or are you immune from the whims of PMA?
Just trying to balance your somewhat cocky post against those (latterly of the multi/rotary persuasion) who have spent far too long doing a real job and long since handed in the rose-tinted spectacles. Not that this side of the fence is without its brown patches mind.
Anyway, 2 weeks off for me now (for only 7 days leave).
And I don't have a degree.
Enjoy your ground tour when it comes - especially if it's somewhere with lots of beach but no sea.
And were you aware that you can take the lump sum, and the pension and continue to be paid £4k a month? And you get more holidays (56 days I think it is).
You sound like you have a cushy number at the moment - if you enjoy living in Anglesey I guess - but will it always be thus? Or are you immune from the whims of PMA?
Just trying to balance your somewhat cocky post against those (latterly of the multi/rotary persuasion) who have spent far too long doing a real job and long since handed in the rose-tinted spectacles. Not that this side of the fence is without its brown patches mind.
Anyway, 2 weeks off for me now (for only 7 days leave).
And I don't have a degree.
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BA SFO 767 . 10 years service in BA ( UK Charter before that )
Net take home a pitiful £4730
(Interestingly this was a reasonably useful £5150 net during 2009 , prior to pay cut and with perhaps one day a month overtime.)
I feel our union was far too fast in signing up to a pay cut at the end of 2009 whilst massively overpaid BA cabin crew "sailed on" with existing pay levels and increments.
Business class staff travel just one trip per year ( Emirates and others give this to Pilots, pilots parents etc on EVERY sector !
Slow promotion prospects, No other benefits whatsoever. I'm reasonably happy here, given the grim conditions elsewhere , but will encourage my children to find careers elsewhere !
Net take home a pitiful £4730
(Interestingly this was a reasonably useful £5150 net during 2009 , prior to pay cut and with perhaps one day a month overtime.)
I feel our union was far too fast in signing up to a pay cut at the end of 2009 whilst massively overpaid BA cabin crew "sailed on" with existing pay levels and increments.
Business class staff travel just one trip per year ( Emirates and others give this to Pilots, pilots parents etc on EVERY sector !
Slow promotion prospects, No other benefits whatsoever. I'm reasonably happy here, given the grim conditions elsewhere , but will encourage my children to find careers elsewhere !
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And let's not forget that the business class trip is only that if there are no other higher priority staff on the day or, of course, fare-paying passengers.
Still, at least there are one or two fewer staff eligible these days....
Still, at least there are one or two fewer staff eligible these days....