Aer Lingus - Direct Entry Pilots
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aer lingus rostering?
is the rumour true that AL pilots are working harder than dogs and have split days off all the time with no sequence just lates rammed into earlies? ehh safety issues? Buddy of mine is keen to join if they recruit but from what I see it looks terrible. Surely this cant be true as if it was surely the the AL guys would be moaning on certain websites???? enlighten us..
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Suas, the lads and lass` are indeed working their little figers to the bone - well a lot of them anyway. i`d say they are too busy to moan on websites but it doesn`t stop them in ops!! The main problem is that the rosters are still manually written and there is a high turnover of personnel in crew scheduling which seems to result in requests being ignored in the rush to get the schedule crewed. If you put in a request you can be given split days of in order to grant that request, even if you have done 6 days before, or have 6 days after. "Its not that we are short of pilots - we just have too many flights"! (alleged to have been said by a managment type)
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Aer Lingus is one of the best airlines in the world to work for. Pay, working conditions and opportunities are first class.
The salary and allowances are excellent. The roster is stable, days off are guaranteed, and leave is relatively generous(though somewhat problematic). Travel concessions are also a major plus, with an excellent worldwide network and ease of access to them.
Those returning cadets will appreciate that. As Milehighdriver said, the seniority agreement is the cornerstone of a pilots life in Aer Lingus. It will never be allowed to be diluted. Anyone thinking they could swan in as a captain on the A330 had better look elsewhere.
Time to command quoted by all is rather generous. I think more realistic would be 8-10 years, but as was said earlier, its not a great concern for co-pilots in ei.
thebrother should be largely ignored. He knows not of which he speaks.
The salary and allowances are excellent. The roster is stable, days off are guaranteed, and leave is relatively generous(though somewhat problematic). Travel concessions are also a major plus, with an excellent worldwide network and ease of access to them.
Those returning cadets will appreciate that. As Milehighdriver said, the seniority agreement is the cornerstone of a pilots life in Aer Lingus. It will never be allowed to be diluted. Anyone thinking they could swan in as a captain on the A330 had better look elsewhere.
Time to command quoted by all is rather generous. I think more realistic would be 8-10 years, but as was said earlier, its not a great concern for co-pilots in ei.
thebrother should be largely ignored. He knows not of which he speaks.
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The cadets are just the start. Thirty odd cadets aren't going to help solve the shortage of pilots. With new aircraft arriving soon and the planned privatisation loomimg there's certainly going to be a queue forming soon. As regards low hours, who knows? You'd think they'd prefer airbus guys/gals, but in today's market, there probably aint a whole bunch out there that would fit the Aer Lingus profile. After that, I'd imagine if your face fits then your in with a chance.
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D'ont be too worried about the face fitting. AL genuinely has every type of face, with guys/gals from every background. Airbus rating is probably an advantage but definitely wont be a must I'd imagine. There is also a proven track record of taking pilots with very low hours. Yeah, the competition might be strong when they do advertise, but any guy/gal who is really keen and most importantly down to earth stands as good a chance as any, regardless of hrs/rating.
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Originally Posted by jebus
Aer Lingus is one of the best airlines in the world to work for. Pay, working conditions and opportunities are first class.
The salary and allowances are excellent. The roster is stable, days off are guaranteed, and leave is relatively generous(though somewhat problematic).
The salary and allowances are excellent. The roster is stable, days off are guaranteed, and leave is relatively generous(though somewhat problematic).
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Originally Posted by suasdaguna
i just have to pick you up here.....the current rostering is appalling...lates rammed into earlies....split days and no life style. We are running out of hours and it is creaking at the seams re continuity.
The trouble is my name isn't Feargal, Connor, Grainne or some other Irish middle class name and I never could get my tongue round the mid atlantic Hiberno English that all EI pilots seem to use.
Ok I exaggerate and I know it's not all rosy in the walled garden. But I think that reputation in itself will attract applicants not least from Irish ex-pats working abroad right now. It certainly will attract my application but I feel I have more chance of winning the lotto.
Aer Lingus I think still has remnants of the old glamour that was attached to airlines like Pan Am. (Probably not a good example, I know). Aer Lingus was a great company to work for once.
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Oh, I couldn't be a child if I can remember when working for Aer Lingus was glamourous to the uninitiated. In fact I couldn't be a child if I can remember when working for any airline was glamourous. 
Now as it's way past my bedtime I'm off to beddie byes. If you are cruel to me again I will tell Danny was suasdaguna really means
You wait
I couldn't be a child if I can remember when working for Aer Lingus was glamourous to the uninitiated. In fact I couldn't be a child if I can remember when working for any airline was glamourous. Now as it's way past my bedtime I'm off to beddie byes. If you are cruel to me again I will tell Danny was suasdaguna really means
You wait
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From: DUB
Aer Lingus - Direct Entry Pilots
Aer Lingus are advertising for direct entry pilots for the 320 based out of DUB.. details here
Requirements start at:
Requirements start at:
- IAA or JAR- FCL ATPL (or Frozen ATPL).
- Current Class 1 Medical Certificate.
- Permanently eligible to live and work in Ireland with an unrestricted worldwide passport.
- Priority will be given to those applicants who hold a current A320 type rating and have at least 500 hours on type and 1000 hours in total.
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Essential Requirements:
To be considered for a position as Aer Lingus Direct Entry Pilot, applicants must be able to meet the following essential criteria:
IAA or JAR- FCL ATPL (or Frozen ATPL).
Current Class 1 Medical Certificate.
Collection & Drop-off of Aer Lingus Staff.
Permanently eligible to live and work in Ireland with an unrestricted worldwide passport.
To be considered for a position as Aer Lingus Direct Entry Pilot, applicants must be able to meet the following essential criteria:
IAA or JAR- FCL ATPL (or Frozen ATPL).
Current Class 1 Medical Certificate.
Collection & Drop-off of Aer Lingus Staff.
Permanently eligible to live and work in Ireland with an unrestricted worldwide passport.
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No idea what the 3rd point means.
I wonder if there would be alot of interest in this, Dublin is an expensive place to live and times are uncertain in Aer Lingus, and considering the pay on joining ( as per PPJN ) most guys who would have the minimum requirements would be most likely flying outside of Ireland and for better money. I am guessing this will attract more locals then anything!
Am I wrong?? All recruitment is good however for any job hunters.
I wonder if there would be alot of interest in this, Dublin is an expensive place to live and times are uncertain in Aer Lingus, and considering the pay on joining ( as per PPJN ) most guys who would have the minimum requirements would be most likely flying outside of Ireland and for better money. I am guessing this will attract more locals then anything!
Am I wrong?? All recruitment is good however for any job hunters.