Singapore Airlines A380 Pay & Benefit Problems
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Singapore Airlines A380 Pay & Benefit Problems
Seems it's not just the plane that's having problems... I tend to agree with the "rule of thumb" given...
SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Singapore Airlines, the world's second-biggest airline by market value, said on Monday it was seeking court arbitration to settle a dispute with its pilots over pay and benefits for flying its new A380 superjumbo planes.
Singapore Airlines has ordered 19 of Airbus' double-decker A380 aircraft and will be the first airline to fly the new plane next year.
"The company is seeking to have some differences with Air Line Pilots Association-Singapore (Alpa-S) over proposed pay scales for A380 pilots adjudicated. We hope that the outstanding issues can be resolved quickly," Singapore Airlines said in a statement.
Singapore daily The Straits Times said on Monday that Alpa-S, which it said represents 1,600 pilots, is upset because the airline is proposing to pay the pilots less than what a Boeing 747 captain makes, although the airline's A380s, with just under 480 seats, will carry about 100 more passengers than its 747s.
The paper added that a Singapore Airlines' 747 captain starts at about S$10,000 (US$6,300) per month excluding allowances and that according to pilots interviewed, the rule of thumb is "the bigger the plane, the higher the pay."
Singapore Airlines has referred its dispute with its pilots' union to the Industrial Arbitration Court, a spokesman said.
Declining to give further details, Singapore Airlines said its talks with the union had been constructive but that there remained areas where they did not have common ground.
Singapore's former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew, who holds the title of "Minister Mentor" in his son Lee Hsien Loong's cabinet, stepped in to end a spat between the state-controlled firm and its pilots' union in 2003, after the flag carrier cut wages, slashed capacity by a third, and furloughed nearly 600 staff.
Both sides reached a deal last year on salary and benefits, ending the city-state's worst labor dispute in two decades.
Lee, the father of the prime minister, said Singapore was determined to prevent a repeat of a 1980 dispute with pilots that disrupted flights on key routes, especially as regional competition grows in the airline industry.
SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Singapore Airlines, the world's second-biggest airline by market value, said on Monday it was seeking court arbitration to settle a dispute with its pilots over pay and benefits for flying its new A380 superjumbo planes.
Singapore Airlines has ordered 19 of Airbus' double-decker A380 aircraft and will be the first airline to fly the new plane next year.
"The company is seeking to have some differences with Air Line Pilots Association-Singapore (Alpa-S) over proposed pay scales for A380 pilots adjudicated. We hope that the outstanding issues can be resolved quickly," Singapore Airlines said in a statement.
Singapore daily The Straits Times said on Monday that Alpa-S, which it said represents 1,600 pilots, is upset because the airline is proposing to pay the pilots less than what a Boeing 747 captain makes, although the airline's A380s, with just under 480 seats, will carry about 100 more passengers than its 747s.
The paper added that a Singapore Airlines' 747 captain starts at about S$10,000 (US$6,300) per month excluding allowances and that according to pilots interviewed, the rule of thumb is "the bigger the plane, the higher the pay."
Singapore Airlines has referred its dispute with its pilots' union to the Industrial Arbitration Court, a spokesman said.
Declining to give further details, Singapore Airlines said its talks with the union had been constructive but that there remained areas where they did not have common ground.
Singapore's former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew, who holds the title of "Minister Mentor" in his son Lee Hsien Loong's cabinet, stepped in to end a spat between the state-controlled firm and its pilots' union in 2003, after the flag carrier cut wages, slashed capacity by a third, and furloughed nearly 600 staff.
Both sides reached a deal last year on salary and benefits, ending the city-state's worst labor dispute in two decades.
Lee, the father of the prime minister, said Singapore was determined to prevent a repeat of a 1980 dispute with pilots that disrupted flights on key routes, especially as regional competition grows in the airline industry.
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S$10,000 (US$6,300)
When I last looked at an SIA recruitment ad it was very difficult to work out exactly how much was on offer. Don't worry, I'm not looking to move (yet
) but what is the ball park figure for expat 747 Captains ?
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I ran into an SQ 777-300 crew in Asia a couple of years ago. The captain claimed that he made less than USD$100,000 a year and that it was taxed.
For comparison, FedEx has a tentative agreement up for a vote right now. The initial A-380 pay rate for a 15 year captain is $247.76 a credit hour plus $9.00 an hour international override. This goes up to $262.84 three years after the contract is signed. Under some circumstances A-380 captains will get 150% of this rate, FedEx still has some old style work rules left.
Sounds like the SQ pilots will be lucky to get half of what FedEx is offering...
For comparison, FedEx has a tentative agreement up for a vote right now. The initial A-380 pay rate for a 15 year captain is $247.76 a credit hour plus $9.00 an hour international override. This goes up to $262.84 three years after the contract is signed. Under some circumstances A-380 captains will get 150% of this rate, FedEx still has some old style work rules left.
Sounds like the SQ pilots will be lucky to get half of what FedEx is offering...
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I hate it when the news boys tell the world what so and so's pilots make. Although the article correctly stated a basic amount, the rest of the data was left out. My own personal opinion is that it's no business of anyone's (outside of where I work) what I make. By publishing a partial piece of information, the paper doesn't tell the right story, and the poopooing starts. (I make more, you guys work for shyte etc.) At any rate there is a formula and procedure in place to work out the deals at SQ and it will be settled as usual. (Sometime before the delivery...
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