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Just got an email from them... not enough hours! They demand 1500hrs.
But I have an A320 type-rating! How can they find people with Airbus Rating + 1500 hrs ! who accept the very bad conditions they offer ??
But I have an A320 type-rating! How can they find people with Airbus Rating + 1500 hrs ! who accept the very bad conditions they offer ??
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They require 1500 hrs before you pay them for an A320 rating so they will take people with no hrs provided that they do the rating with either CAE or Storm.
http://www.cae.com/aviationtraining/Vueling-Intro.shtml
http://www.cae.com/aviationtraining/Vueling-Intro.shtml
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I was told by one of their pilots that 1500 hrs is their insurance requirement.
I think there are plenty of pilots who build those hours in GA that are ready to fly for them.
Winch
I think there are plenty of pilots who build those hours in GA that are ready to fly for them.
Winch
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10 years ago, It would have cost me 800 euro for a 2 ways flight ticket for my vacation or go to a free interview.
Now it costs me 130 euro for my same 2 ways ticket and a 300 euro interview.
at the end, we are still the winners!
Now it costs me 130 euro for my same 2 ways ticket and a 300 euro interview.
at the end, we are still the winners!
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But 10 years ago you would have had a free MCC, a free type rating, a free uniform, a free parking place, free meal onboard during your duties (all offered by the company), and you would have had a salary probably 5 times higher than today, bearing in mind that lifestyle was 3 times cheaper than today !
So at the end, you are not a winner, you are just ****** up, but very happy to have "a job"
So at the end, you are not a winner, you are just ****** up, but very happy to have "a job"
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Hi to everyone,
I am going to do an interview with them soon. Could somebody give some information about the assesment?
I have found something but just in wide terms.
Thank you in advance,
Rebagliato
I am going to do an interview with them soon. Could somebody give some information about the assesment?
I have found something but just in wide terms.
Thank you in advance,
Rebagliato
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vueling sim assessment
Next week I have a sim assessment for Vueling on the A-320 in Madrid.
Does anaybody know what to expect and does anybody have some flightprofile details for the assessment, like powersettings, flapsettings en targetspeeds?
Any info would be highly appreciated.
Thks El Capitano
Does anaybody know what to expect and does anybody have some flightprofile details for the assessment, like powersettings, flapsettings en targetspeeds?
Any info would be highly appreciated.
Thks El Capitano
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Vueling. any info?
Can anyone give me impartial information for working for vueling? Has anybody recently been for interview? Has anyone just joined on the DEC+Fast track cpt program and how is it?
Have heard some sad things about them but would likew to hear as close to what is real as possible.
Thanks
JW
Have heard some sad things about them but would likew to hear as close to what is real as possible.
Thanks
JW
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hi jw,
iīm going to join vueling in april, where my typerating course starts in mad, as a dec. so far, as i can see, vueling is not that bad (at least for the cp`s, i can understand the foīs are a little disappointed concerning salary, etc.), everything quiet fair (interview, sim check...), staff very friendly... and i know the one or the other company and how things run there!!! the only thing that`s annoying is the lack of communication which is in my opinion caused by the overloaded hr staff. you need to call/mail them many times to receive information/results. btw are you sure they`re still hiring, i heard they have now enough folks from busted air madrid?!
all the best
410
...did anyone heard about a third base??? if so, where?
iīm going to join vueling in april, where my typerating course starts in mad, as a dec. so far, as i can see, vueling is not that bad (at least for the cp`s, i can understand the foīs are a little disappointed concerning salary, etc.), everything quiet fair (interview, sim check...), staff very friendly... and i know the one or the other company and how things run there!!! the only thing that`s annoying is the lack of communication which is in my opinion caused by the overloaded hr staff. you need to call/mail them many times to receive information/results. btw are you sure they`re still hiring, i heard they have now enough folks from busted air madrid?!
all the best
410
...did anyone heard about a third base??? if so, where?
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My advise,... stay away.
If passed the interview and simulator and this is the impression I have:
It is a bunch of unorganized pilots with all sorts of backgrounds who are really nice.However, they are not the ones who shoot you in the back from the moment you sign that piece of paper.
The real problem lies with the management and the ones who make the decisions there.
some facts:
1.when applying it is completely chaotic. They give you dates for the Sim with no time to plan after not hearing from them for ages. Some get the Sim after 3 days,...
2.when coming for a Sim evaluation it turns out that cae doesnīt have a Sim available
3.They promise you a DEC and all of a sudden it turns out they want to offer you a F/O position despite handling the Sim above standard with the other one getting a DEC despite completely ******* up his SE ILS twice.
4.During training you donīt get the Captīs extra pay as long as you are not checked out. This lasted for some guys more than 3 months as they have no checkers available for you.
In that time you earn about 1600 euros net,
and yes, as a captain.
5.complaining and you get as an answer: that is what all vueling captains get during the line training
6.Safety, security first aid courses in Spanish only
7.Sheduling,... a nightmare,... changes all the time,.. at least the off days seem to be stable +/-
8.You canīt believe them,... everything should be on paper and even then,... Spanish law applies so the contract is in Spanish,... so if you want to start fighting for your rights, you are on your own.
No union
9.... to be continued
Forget them. It only makes sense if they give you an airbus rating and you can live from 1600 euros for several months.
There are even guys living in a trailer because they can not afford an apartment in BCN or MAD.
Bad deal
If passed the interview and simulator and this is the impression I have:
It is a bunch of unorganized pilots with all sorts of backgrounds who are really nice.However, they are not the ones who shoot you in the back from the moment you sign that piece of paper.
The real problem lies with the management and the ones who make the decisions there.
some facts:
1.when applying it is completely chaotic. They give you dates for the Sim with no time to plan after not hearing from them for ages. Some get the Sim after 3 days,...
2.when coming for a Sim evaluation it turns out that cae doesnīt have a Sim available
3.They promise you a DEC and all of a sudden it turns out they want to offer you a F/O position despite handling the Sim above standard with the other one getting a DEC despite completely ******* up his SE ILS twice.
4.During training you donīt get the Captīs extra pay as long as you are not checked out. This lasted for some guys more than 3 months as they have no checkers available for you.
In that time you earn about 1600 euros net,
and yes, as a captain.
5.complaining and you get as an answer: that is what all vueling captains get during the line training
6.Safety, security first aid courses in Spanish only
7.Sheduling,... a nightmare,... changes all the time,.. at least the off days seem to be stable +/-
8.You canīt believe them,... everything should be on paper and even then,... Spanish law applies so the contract is in Spanish,... so if you want to start fighting for your rights, you are on your own.
No union
9.... to be continued
Forget them. It only makes sense if they give you an airbus rating and you can live from 1600 euros for several months.
There are even guys living in a trailer because they can not afford an apartment in BCN or MAD.
Bad deal
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clickair?
hi guys,
is it true that they are loosing a lot of guys that are jumping to clickair?
(More or less what is happening between Ryanair and Easyjet)
And then, if a cpt earn 1600 euros, what about the F/Os??
Are they making less money than cabin crew???
It seems a real BAD deal!!!
is it true that they are loosing a lot of guys that are jumping to clickair?
(More or less what is happening between Ryanair and Easyjet)
And then, if a cpt earn 1600 euros, what about the F/Os??
Are they making less money than cabin crew???
It seems a real BAD deal!!!
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hi guys,
now i really have to ask you in what galaxy you folks are living?! this company is paying for your rating and gives you money during rating/training and you complain?!?! well, its not too much, but nobody forces you to join them and finally checked out the money they offer is not that bad. i remember the times, not a long time ago, when young pilots payed for the rating and thereafter payed for every hour theyīve been flying under supervision 50!!! no salary, no flightpay, no per diems, nothing!!! things turned into good and will improve furthermore, you even fly a brand new bus....sowhat?!
rgds, 410
now i really have to ask you in what galaxy you folks are living?! this company is paying for your rating and gives you money during rating/training and you complain
?!?! well, its not too much, but nobody forces you to join them and finally checked out the money they offer is not that bad. i remember the times, not a long time ago, when young pilots payed for the rating and thereafter payed for every hour theyīve been flying under supervision 50!!! no salary, no flightpay, no per diems, nothing!!! things turned into good and will improve furthermore, you even fly a brand new bus....sowhat?!rgds, 410
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Well 410,
My company paid for my type rating and is paying me what I deserve for my hard work...remember that be a pilot is a job with high professionalism and responsabilities and have to be paid consequentely.
So if you support these conditions (vueling) or you are a management guy or a pilot that lives in another galaxy.
rgds to you,
zum
My company paid for my type rating and is paying me what I deserve for my hard work...remember that be a pilot is a job with high professionalism and responsabilities and have to be paid consequentely.
So if you support these conditions (vueling) or you are a management guy or a pilot that lives in another galaxy.
rgds to you,
zum
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Hi,
Vueling does not pay for the type rating. They payed some to captain few month ago but it is not usual. The salary is very bad and even if they are nice during the interview after they treat you like s..t. They are scare that pilot leave the company. So if they need 30 pilots they hire 60. Like this some FO flyes 20H per month with a salary of 1500 EUR. This company is just good to pick up the 500H on type and adios.
Vueling does not pay for the type rating. They payed some to captain few month ago but it is not usual. The salary is very bad and even if they are nice during the interview after they treat you like s..t. They are scare that pilot leave the company. So if they need 30 pilots they hire 60. Like this some FO flyes 20H per month with a salary of 1500 EUR. This company is just good to pick up the 500H on type and adios.
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climto410,
some people walk straight into **** and they donīt realize it.
Or to put in a nicer way, itīs like falling in love with a girl who has a real bad character but in the beginning you donīt see it. She is really pretty from the outside but after a while you start to know here bad sides.
Do what you have to do but keep this in mind; I know some guys who told me what a good opportunity Vueling is to get a quick command on the bus and so I applied.
After a while I started to recognize that what I saw was only what I wanted to see.
Those same guys are still not checked out after 4 months and are overdrawing all there bank accounts just to make a living.
The one who finally made it is earning 4500 euros net as a Captain and already starts complaining what a chaos company Vueling is.
Besides that,... he has to pay 1100 euros now for an apartment in MAD, has been mucked twice and didnīt expect the sunny part of Europe to be that unfriendly against Germans.
If you think that is a good deal,... go ahead but I guess you have been flying an ATR or F100 before, for way less.
Despite the fact that I would like to fill a left seat one day I just stay where I am for now with less but whit better conditions (who are really not that great).
Vueling and Wizzair,... you can stuff them in one pit and on it
Other guys who want to be respected for who they are,... donīt even bother
some people walk straight into **** and they donīt realize it.
Or to put in a nicer way, itīs like falling in love with a girl who has a real bad character but in the beginning you donīt see it. She is really pretty from the outside but after a while you start to know here bad sides.
Do what you have to do but keep this in mind; I know some guys who told me what a good opportunity Vueling is to get a quick command on the bus and so I applied.
After a while I started to recognize that what I saw was only what I wanted to see.
Those same guys are still not checked out after 4 months and are overdrawing all there bank accounts just to make a living.
The one who finally made it is earning 4500 euros net as a Captain and already starts complaining what a chaos company Vueling is.
Besides that,... he has to pay 1100 euros now for an apartment in MAD, has been mucked twice and didnīt expect the sunny part of Europe to be that unfriendly against Germans.
If you think that is a good deal,... go ahead but I guess you have been flying an ATR or F100 before, for way less.
Despite the fact that I would like to fill a left seat one day I just stay where I am for now with less but whit better conditions (who are really not that great).
Vueling and Wizzair,... you can stuff them in one pit and
on itOther guys who want to be respected for who they are,... donīt even bother