easyjet basing policy
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Question:
Does anyone happen to konw if those in charge of the basing policy at EJ are actually looking at the lists to see if people can't simply swap between a few bases. Or is everyone just waiting on the lists for someone to move on for other reasons.
It is after all conceivable that you could be waiting for a base where there are pilots also on a waiting list to move and a little juggling aroung might keep a few more people happy.
Does anyone happen to konw if those in charge of the basing policy at EJ are actually looking at the lists to see if people can't simply swap between a few bases. Or is everyone just waiting on the lists for someone to move on for other reasons.
It is after all conceivable that you could be waiting for a base where there are pilots also on a waiting list to move and a little juggling aroung might keep a few more people happy.
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Things are changing at EZY.
There was an announcment, that, on opening a new base, local pilot market should be considered to a degree.
So, my last statement "join the que" is not quite correct anymore!
This is the chance for local pilots, as for the new base opened next year.
There was an announcment, that, on opening a new base, local pilot market should be considered to a degree.
So, my last statement "join the que" is not quite correct anymore!
This is the chance for local pilots, as for the new base opened next year.
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152wiseguy: Regarding base swaps, that effectively happens at the moment. The Transfer List does just that automatically. Someone who wants to leave a particular base is moved on as soon as a vacancy at their chosen base appears.
As Kraut has said, the latest missive from the management indicates a subtle change of policy in terms of our new base at Madrid and indeed at future bases as they open. There is nothing commerically sensitive about the plan and I have therefore listed the basic changes as published:
· We will open up the waiting lists for internal transfers 7 days after the announcement is made – 31st August (normal application process on crew e-mail through their base captain) and we will review the lists after a further 14 days has passed – 14th September (ie 21 days from announcement) to allow anyone who may have been on leave to be able to bid. The bids will not follow a first come first served basis so all applications within the 14 day window from 31st July will be considered.
· A pilot may bid to move to a new base whilst remaining on an existing transfer list (normally a pilot may only be on one list at a time but this would be an appropriate exception).
· If the base is oversubscribed for internal transfers, we list the captains and first officers in two lists in descending date of joining order and select from the top of the list first.
· We must have the ability to man 1/3rd of the base (normally one aircraft out of 3) from external/new recruits who are recruited locally and who will go straight into the base on joining.
· We must be careful if we are oversubscribed internally not to take too many pilots from any single existing base (especially where this would require those transferring pilots to complete type conversions – the example might be a significant number of LTN-based 737 crews requesting to transfer to a new A319 base). We would aim to use the date of joining order if oversubscribed unless to do so would expose us to a clear operational risk at any single base. In this event, we would allow the individuals the ability to convert and transfer at the earliest possible opportunity without damage to the Business. Pilots who requested transfers but require conversion would be bonded in accordance with the extant bonding policies.
· We can enforce the 3 year fleet freeze to any full conversion pilot who joined after Jan 2004 although we may reduce this timescale as we have done in many cases recently.
As a little aside, following our very difficult summer caused by insufficient crews, our CEO Andy Harrison has written to all staff saying that they will receive shares worth 2 weeks salary as a big 'thank you' for their efforts. Max value £3000 and min value £600, the shares become yours after 3 years if you stay with the company. This is good news, and yet another sign that we at last have a CEO who really wants to get the best from his people.
As Kraut has said, the latest missive from the management indicates a subtle change of policy in terms of our new base at Madrid and indeed at future bases as they open. There is nothing commerically sensitive about the plan and I have therefore listed the basic changes as published:
· We will open up the waiting lists for internal transfers 7 days after the announcement is made – 31st August (normal application process on crew e-mail through their base captain) and we will review the lists after a further 14 days has passed – 14th September (ie 21 days from announcement) to allow anyone who may have been on leave to be able to bid. The bids will not follow a first come first served basis so all applications within the 14 day window from 31st July will be considered.
· A pilot may bid to move to a new base whilst remaining on an existing transfer list (normally a pilot may only be on one list at a time but this would be an appropriate exception).
· If the base is oversubscribed for internal transfers, we list the captains and first officers in two lists in descending date of joining order and select from the top of the list first.
· We must have the ability to man 1/3rd of the base (normally one aircraft out of 3) from external/new recruits who are recruited locally and who will go straight into the base on joining.
· We must be careful if we are oversubscribed internally not to take too many pilots from any single existing base (especially where this would require those transferring pilots to complete type conversions – the example might be a significant number of LTN-based 737 crews requesting to transfer to a new A319 base). We would aim to use the date of joining order if oversubscribed unless to do so would expose us to a clear operational risk at any single base. In this event, we would allow the individuals the ability to convert and transfer at the earliest possible opportunity without damage to the Business. Pilots who requested transfers but require conversion would be bonded in accordance with the extant bonding policies.
· We can enforce the 3 year fleet freeze to any full conversion pilot who joined after Jan 2004 although we may reduce this timescale as we have done in many cases recently.
As a little aside, following our very difficult summer caused by insufficient crews, our CEO Andy Harrison has written to all staff saying that they will receive shares worth 2 weeks salary as a big 'thank you' for their efforts. Max value £3000 and min value £600, the shares become yours after 3 years if you stay with the company. This is good news, and yet another sign that we at last have a CEO who really wants to get the best from his people.
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Sarah - That is hard to tell. What you can say is that if there is a choice between working for easyJet or Vueling then there is probably little or no choice. Notwithstanding the comments by others earlier, it is a hard balance for easyJet to have - they do not want to disadvantage their current crews but there are some clear advantages in recruiting locally in terms of making an impact.
The root of the issue is that there are simply insufficient 'high quality' pilots around to meet our recruitment targets next year, bearing in mind the fact that everyone else wants the same pilots as well. Before everyone starts jumping up and down about the term 'high quality', what that means in practice is type-rated on the A320/B737NG, or at least with significant jet experience. The managers, for better or worse, are concerned that they would not get enough pilots applying if they have to spend a long time away from their home country. I would imagine this will be a blueprint for future expansion in and around Eruope. Interesting enough, I am not aware of us currently employing any Spanish pilots, although we have loads of cabin crew. (I do know we offered one a job recently but he has not yet started.) That is clearly about to change and most people would agree that is a good thing, bearing in mind how much of our business is related to Spain, plus the fact we will now have a Spanish base in Madrid. I would fully expect us to be inundated with applications from many suitable pilots - which is the general plan as far as can be seen.
The root of the issue is that there are simply insufficient 'high quality' pilots around to meet our recruitment targets next year, bearing in mind the fact that everyone else wants the same pilots as well. Before everyone starts jumping up and down about the term 'high quality', what that means in practice is type-rated on the A320/B737NG, or at least with significant jet experience. The managers, for better or worse, are concerned that they would not get enough pilots applying if they have to spend a long time away from their home country. I would imagine this will be a blueprint for future expansion in and around Eruope. Interesting enough, I am not aware of us currently employing any Spanish pilots, although we have loads of cabin crew. (I do know we offered one a job recently but he has not yet started.) That is clearly about to change and most people would agree that is a good thing, bearing in mind how much of our business is related to Spain, plus the fact we will now have a Spanish base in Madrid. I would fully expect us to be inundated with applications from many suitable pilots - which is the general plan as far as can be seen.
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Hi all,
As we are talking about basing, I've got 2 questions. And it would be marvelous if someone from inside could help me with this.
Is there a base transfer list published somewhere in the intranet of the company? If not, how can poeple see where they are situated in the list. If there is a list published somewhere, could somebody be kind enough to have a look and tell me how long is the queue in some particular basis. I'm after infos about the mainland basis, like GVA, BSL, DTM, ORY and SXF.
Is there any rumour about the possible future basis to be announced within the next months. Some poeple on this forums told that expension will be mainly in the mainland as UK become too congested and flooded by locos. A friend of mine told me that EZY bought some slots out of BRU? Anybody heard the same?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Regards
As we are talking about basing, I've got 2 questions. And it would be marvelous if someone from inside could help me with this.
Is there a base transfer list published somewhere in the intranet of the company? If not, how can poeple see where they are situated in the list. If there is a list published somewhere, could somebody be kind enough to have a look and tell me how long is the queue in some particular basis. I'm after infos about the mainland basis, like GVA, BSL, DTM, ORY and SXF.
Is there any rumour about the possible future basis to be announced within the next months. Some poeple on this forums told that expension will be mainly in the mainland as UK become too congested and flooded by locos. A friend of mine told me that EZY bought some slots out of BRU? Anybody heard the same?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Regards
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Hi NSF, can you please tell us what are the chances for Spanish A320 type rated pilots to join EZY at the MAD base? I didn't know there where no Spanish pilots in EZY at the time, it's hard to believe... Thought it would be tough to set foot on the MAD base.
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Nemo, according to the e-mail all the pilots received about the MAD base one third of crew for the base will be locally based pilots, i.e. Spanish.
So get your application in! Being rated helps a lot.
Regards,
Scottie
So get your application in! Being rated helps a lot.
Regards,
Scottie
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Nemo - Scottie is quite correct and you should apply immediately! I am really not sure why we have no Spanish pilots - it is certainly not deliberate as we have just about every other nationality. Anyway, that is certainly just about to change so come on down!
Cleared ILS Approach - I know of no reliable rumours about future European bases other than the fact that there will be some. The Madrid base was the worst kept secret I can remember and everyone knew about it 2 or 3 months ago. At the moment there is no other rumour I am aware of - perhaps others may know more.
Regarding the Base Transer List, up until last week it was a 'secret' list and you could move up and down a couple of places in a blink of an eye. It was much derided by all the crews as there has been a widespread feeling that it has been open to abuse. I certainly know of cases where people have had preferential treatment and it has caused unnecessary bad feeling. Like I have said in the past we are not perfect, but we are moving in the right direction. Such is the case here - last week there was an official announcement that the command and base transfer lists will be published on the intranet (company internal internet site) and there will be complete transparency regarding movement. You will be given a number to hide your identity and you will know only your number and therefore not know by name who is above and below you on the list. Nonetheless, you will be able to track your numerical position and ensure that no cheating takes place! I think most of us would agree this is a significant step forward which is long overdue. 'Every little helps' as they say!
Cleared ILS Approach - I know of no reliable rumours about future European bases other than the fact that there will be some. The Madrid base was the worst kept secret I can remember and everyone knew about it 2 or 3 months ago. At the moment there is no other rumour I am aware of - perhaps others may know more.
Regarding the Base Transer List, up until last week it was a 'secret' list and you could move up and down a couple of places in a blink of an eye. It was much derided by all the crews as there has been a widespread feeling that it has been open to abuse. I certainly know of cases where people have had preferential treatment and it has caused unnecessary bad feeling. Like I have said in the past we are not perfect, but we are moving in the right direction. Such is the case here - last week there was an official announcement that the command and base transfer lists will be published on the intranet (company internal internet site) and there will be complete transparency regarding movement. You will be given a number to hide your identity and you will know only your number and therefore not know by name who is above and below you on the list. Nonetheless, you will be able to track your numerical position and ensure that no cheating takes place! I think most of us would agree this is a significant step forward which is long overdue. 'Every little helps' as they say!
