Interviews at Monarch (merged)
Joined: Aug 1999
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600-800 pounds allowances in the summer would be unusual for fleets other than the 767 and A330, or A320 pilots covering for other bases (mainly Ltn crews).Above salary the only other allowances paid are flight allowances. Depending on the length of flight this will be around 20-30 per day. 200 to 300 per month seems to be normal for crews operating out of home base.
Sorry don't know about bonding.
Sorry don't know about bonding.
Joined: Jan 2001
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From: uk
£2400.00 per month inc allowances(no sector pay), about right with no pension taken out. Hope your flying loans / bills are small.
Also lots of roster disruption so don't plan anything around your roster. Your 8 days off come in pairs and stay where rostered unless you sell them back. Rosters out 1700 on 20th each month running from 1st-end of next month. Only 37 days leave including bank holiday allowance usually issued 5 months inadvance. 3 weeks winter, 2 weeks summer.
Also lots of roster disruption so don't plan anything around your roster. Your 8 days off come in pairs and stay where rostered unless you sell them back. Rosters out 1700 on 20th each month running from 1st-end of next month. Only 37 days leave including bank holiday allowance usually issued 5 months inadvance. 3 weeks winter, 2 weeks summer.
Joined: Dec 2004
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From: UK
I can confirm that on a take home basis per month with standard pension contributions is 2400-2500. Not good for the position and work done by many in my opinion.The extra cash you can earn elswhere would be handy in a pension, as you will need it down the road. The package at Moanrch is sub par to say the least and they know it. Result being the exodus to BA and VS that in the past, would have never happened. Join if you please but you will not know many of the newbies long as they head for the exits. Hopefully this is addressed and the contract is returned to its once sensible offering.
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: UTOPIA
Bond is 20K / 3 year linear reduction, like in the old days. Staff travel is a game of two halves IMHO. You are issued with a Credit card sized pass which can be used on any scheduled service, just turn up at STD -40 and if there is a seat you are on for the cost of the airport tax. You are issued with a further card for a spouse / significant other who can utilise this perk even if you are not travelling. I find this works very well and is straight forward and effective, albeit for a small(ish) number of destinations. Without going too deeply into the mire that is "concessionary" travel on package holidays, I simply don't bother and don't know many that do. You could generally do better on the internet or even high street.
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: UK
prnav1, Be careful reading comments on this forum, many who contribute are the ones who are ignored in the crew room due to their constant whingeing.
Many new joiners from other companies have a more balanced view of Monarch as they can compare to previous experiences however some, not all, of the straight through rookies have yet to face a dose of reality.
If you are talking about pay of the different airlines it is pretty easy to compare. Terms and conditions too will vary but wherever you go there are sure to be others within the airline on a better deal, thats the way the business has changed.
Wherever you go you are going to work your butt off, you may be lucky and join an airline that gives opportunity to gain experince on various types of aircraft and one that will in the next five or six years be re-equipping with new aircraft like First Choice and Monarch (to be announced in the next few months).
If its staff travel you are after then short haul to to Spain is excellent with the family "credit card" that can be used as often as you like...... some part time cabin crew commute to Spain for their 2 weeks off.
Other staff travel is pretty much minimal due to the fact that Monarch do not own the seats so you are limited to Cosmos and associated companies.
Whilst the recent pension confrontation will not effect you the main focus for the future is going to be roster stability. Most fleets have a problem but the FBW fleet in Man are the ones who tend to suffer the most due to pilots hitting their 90 hours per month and then everyone having to shuffle sideways to accomodate any changes.
I joined Monarch probably before you were born and I can assure you our present T&C's were achieved after many hours of patient negotiating by our PLC then CC. There has been an erosion mainly on the final salary pension and the Company Council have finally reached a compromise which doesn't please all. Hopefully some of the new entry FO's will soon be elected onto BALPA CC to carry on the thankless task of fighting for better conditions in the new contract
If you join Monarch you will work with a great bunch of pilots and cabin crew ( yes we all whinge occasionally!! ) and I believe have the opportunity of joining a comany that is gearing up for the future challenges with new aircraft and ample opportunity for a command within 5 to 6 years.
Its your call but do some more thorough research elsewhere before making your mind up.
Good luck with your career you have some difficult choices to make.
B&C
Many new joiners from other companies have a more balanced view of Monarch as they can compare to previous experiences however some, not all, of the straight through rookies have yet to face a dose of reality.
If you are talking about pay of the different airlines it is pretty easy to compare. Terms and conditions too will vary but wherever you go there are sure to be others within the airline on a better deal, thats the way the business has changed.
Wherever you go you are going to work your butt off, you may be lucky and join an airline that gives opportunity to gain experince on various types of aircraft and one that will in the next five or six years be re-equipping with new aircraft like First Choice and Monarch (to be announced in the next few months).
If its staff travel you are after then short haul to to Spain is excellent with the family "credit card" that can be used as often as you like...... some part time cabin crew commute to Spain for their 2 weeks off.
Other staff travel is pretty much minimal due to the fact that Monarch do not own the seats so you are limited to Cosmos and associated companies.
Whilst the recent pension confrontation will not effect you the main focus for the future is going to be roster stability. Most fleets have a problem but the FBW fleet in Man are the ones who tend to suffer the most due to pilots hitting their 90 hours per month and then everyone having to shuffle sideways to accomodate any changes.
I joined Monarch probably before you were born and I can assure you our present T&C's were achieved after many hours of patient negotiating by our PLC then CC. There has been an erosion mainly on the final salary pension and the Company Council have finally reached a compromise which doesn't please all. Hopefully some of the new entry FO's will soon be elected onto BALPA CC to carry on the thankless task of fighting for better conditions in the new contract
If you join Monarch you will work with a great bunch of pilots and cabin crew ( yes we all whinge occasionally!! ) and I believe have the opportunity of joining a comany that is gearing up for the future challenges with new aircraft and ample opportunity for a command within 5 to 6 years.
Its your call but do some more thorough research elsewhere before making your mind up.
Good luck with your career you have some difficult choices to make.
B&C
stilljustanothernumber
Joined: Apr 2002
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From: the night sky
I. Management are known to post on here.
2. That was Burntandcold's very first posting.
3. After a big expansion last year, time to command is still running at 7 years plus. No one is getting a command after 5-6 years, as suggested.
4. Nothing has been agreed regarding the defined contribution pension. It is 8% company contribution, but only provided the employee also contributes the same. If the employee does not contribute, nor does the employer.
2. That was Burntandcold's very first posting.
3. After a big expansion last year, time to command is still running at 7 years plus. No one is getting a command after 5-6 years, as suggested.
4. Nothing has been agreed regarding the defined contribution pension. It is 8% company contribution, but only provided the employee also contributes the same. If the employee does not contribute, nor does the employer.
