Parc, Rishworth.?.
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Parc, Rishworth.?.
Has anyone used either of these companies to obtain employment with an airline.?.
Wondering how it worked out.. do they renew the contract after the specified time? Would you do it again.?.
Cheers!
Wondering how it worked out.. do they renew the contract after the specified time? Would you do it again.?.
Cheers!
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Parc and Rishworth
Originally Posted by mrl979
Has anyone used either of these companies to obtain employment with an airline.?.
Wondering how it worked out.. do they renew the contract after the specified time? Would you do it again.?.
Cheers!
Wondering how it worked out.. do they renew the contract after the specified time? Would you do it again.?.
Cheers!
Parc... A first rate operation. They will stand behind you during a time of crisis; you will be paid promtly; and they will be completly honest and fair with you. They don't play games, and they support their employees completely.
Rishworth... None of the above.
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I would generally agree with TOGA Descent but I have only first hand experience with Rishworth and know PARC only from second hand information.
As long as they need you evreything is fine, I think this is valid for both of them. I always received my payment ontime it was never late but there were some issues concerning banking fees and also the medical insurance offered was not the best one. The rest was just fine.
Keep in mind that the contract market is a tough field for the agencies. They all want to make money that's their business goal and they have to fight to get a contract and to keep it, so they must keep their customers, the airlines, happy. With this kept in your mind you can truly understand that at the end you might end up between the lines and left alone. This is valid for all of them and not limited to the above mentioned companies.
As long as they need you evreything is fine, I think this is valid for both of them. I always received my payment ontime it was never late but there were some issues concerning banking fees and also the medical insurance offered was not the best one. The rest was just fine.
Keep in mind that the contract market is a tough field for the agencies. They all want to make money that's their business goal and they have to fight to get a contract and to keep it, so they must keep their customers, the airlines, happy. With this kept in your mind you can truly understand that at the end you might end up between the lines and left alone. This is valid for all of them and not limited to the above mentioned companies.
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'parc' is doing first class business only and provides first class services to us (the pilots). No problems at all and if any minor ones, they were solved asap. My own personal experience after flying with/for them more than a year. A great company !
If You can work with/for 'parc' then you might be a lucky guy. They take more care about your well-being, than most of all the "established" airlines do.
BTW: any infos about "BETTS" in this forum. Would appreciate, Tks !
If You can work with/for 'parc' then you might be a lucky guy. They take more care about your well-being, than most of all the "established" airlines do.
BTW: any infos about "BETTS" in this forum. Would appreciate, Tks !
Thanks for the information so far. In addition to "BETTS" would anyone care to comment on Sigmar, Contractair, Hawaiiaviation, TQAS, Storm, Wynnwith, Directpersonnel, or any other that I may have forgotten.
If you don't or can't reply on the forum could you send me a PM?
Ta!
CC
If you don't or can't reply on the forum could you send me a PM?
Ta!
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Rishworth is recruiting for a Sr. Consultant and have contacted many line pilots for the job, can they meet an EK Capts pay scale?
Whats it like to work for them, directly and not as a contract pilot ? Living in Kiwi land is a nice thought ?
Whats it like to work for them, directly and not as a contract pilot ? Living in Kiwi land is a nice thought ?
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I do contract work since about 10 years now. PARC is the one you should head for. Padraic Toolan is the man of the man there. I meet him several times in the past, very reliable and honest person, he knows the market and has a good reputation as well. DPI is trying to keep up the quality as well.
Any agency run by active pilots is more ore less a pimping to collegues. They have not the time to deal with the problem you may have in time as they fly themselves at the moment you try to contact them. Call PARC, DPI, CCL, EPA, BIUSA, WYNNWITH, CONTRACTAIR, STORM, TITAN, or or or they have somebody on the phone rightaway. You are able to talk with them.... if they are able to help you is another question. As mentioned in a above response: You the Pilot is between the firing lines and business is more important then support an individual with his personal fantasy. Get the job done, take the money and go home and be happy. It is also important to have your border, you do what you can take and, if needed, walk off the apron and go home when you think it is too dangerous to fly that flight. You afford it? then do it. It teaches both a lesson, the contractor with whom you wont get another contract somewhere, the operator who should get the message that enough is enough.
The market is picking up, a lot of companies did not hire in the past and with the traffic growing Airlines need more Pilots, everywhere. That is putting pressure to them and to the agent. Now it is up to the Pilots to wait until the conditions improve to a decent level and flexibility and then you can take a contract. Direct hires are for Expat rare. So if you want to stay home it will be hard to get a attractive contract......
Good luck NG
Any agency run by active pilots is more ore less a pimping to collegues. They have not the time to deal with the problem you may have in time as they fly themselves at the moment you try to contact them. Call PARC, DPI, CCL, EPA, BIUSA, WYNNWITH, CONTRACTAIR, STORM, TITAN, or or or they have somebody on the phone rightaway. You are able to talk with them.... if they are able to help you is another question. As mentioned in a above response: You the Pilot is between the firing lines and business is more important then support an individual with his personal fantasy. Get the job done, take the money and go home and be happy. It is also important to have your border, you do what you can take and, if needed, walk off the apron and go home when you think it is too dangerous to fly that flight. You afford it? then do it. It teaches both a lesson, the contractor with whom you wont get another contract somewhere, the operator who should get the message that enough is enough.
The market is picking up, a lot of companies did not hire in the past and with the traffic growing Airlines need more Pilots, everywhere. That is putting pressure to them and to the agent. Now it is up to the Pilots to wait until the conditions improve to a decent level and flexibility and then you can take a contract. Direct hires are for Expat rare. So if you want to stay home it will be hard to get a attractive contract......
Good luck NG
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Parc is a top level operation. Direct personnel are IMHO a bunch of wasters. Got many phone calls from them but each one was a fishing exercise. All they wanted to know was what the other agencies were offering and where....... Oh, I forgot! They did offer me one job - on an aeroplane I didn't have a rating for and no they were NOT offering the rating! 
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I've always been curios, how do these agencies make their money and how much?
Is it a comission or a one time flat fee, or do they remarket you (the pilot) as their asset at a certain prize.
Anybody have the answers?
fluf
Is it a comission or a one time flat fee, or do they remarket you (the pilot) as their asset at a certain prize.
Anybody have the answers?
fluf
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flufdriver,
How a scrupulous agency will make it's money is by negotiating the best available deal, for the crew member, with the airline. The agency that offers the best T&C's will get the crew members and other agencies may lag behind.
It is a common complaint, amongst crew members, that agencies are 'stealing' their earnings, an agency may work on a one off placement fee, a percentage or a fixed monthly fee but that rarely comes from the crew member's earnings, more often than not the airline pays the agency fee.
As an example, and other countries are higher, in the UK for an airline to employ the crew member directly will cost the airline 12.8% in employer's National Insurance contribution. If they recruit contract pilots via an agency they are perhaps paying the agency, not the government, that 12.8% thus the airline have paid the agency fee.
Whilst the self-employed contractor will thereafter be responsible for his/her own self-employed NI contribution this is an insignificant amount set against the tax deductable advantages of being self-employed rather than employed.
Of course, an agency can only offer the best T&C's that have been made available to it but that's life!
How a scrupulous agency will make it's money is by negotiating the best available deal, for the crew member, with the airline. The agency that offers the best T&C's will get the crew members and other agencies may lag behind.
It is a common complaint, amongst crew members, that agencies are 'stealing' their earnings, an agency may work on a one off placement fee, a percentage or a fixed monthly fee but that rarely comes from the crew member's earnings, more often than not the airline pays the agency fee.
As an example, and other countries are higher, in the UK for an airline to employ the crew member directly will cost the airline 12.8% in employer's National Insurance contribution. If they recruit contract pilots via an agency they are perhaps paying the agency, not the government, that 12.8% thus the airline have paid the agency fee.
Whilst the self-employed contractor will thereafter be responsible for his/her own self-employed NI contribution this is an insignificant amount set against the tax deductable advantages of being self-employed rather than employed.
Of course, an agency can only offer the best T&C's that have been made available to it but that's life!
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In my experience, there are two types of agencies. One is a headhunter who just collects your resume and sends it to the airline. Once the airline hires you, their job is done. The other actually hires you, pays you, administers your benefits and provides ongoing support. It seems to work much better if you have someone in your corner in the long term.
Most of the guys flying in China have been hired directly by the airlines. Anyone know of someone who is working in China? I wonder what the situation is like over there.
Most of the guys flying in China have been hired directly by the airlines. Anyone know of someone who is working in China? I wonder what the situation is like over there.
