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Old 16th May 2006, 07:22
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PP, thanks for the in depth reply.
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Old 16th May 2006, 11:43
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Originally Posted by MAX
If you lied, you will get caught out. MAX
Nonsense! You just have to lie consistently!

Let´s stop kidding ourself, otherwise nobody would ever pass a psychology test as I yet have to fly with the ´Saints´ that some people pretend they are when attending a job interview!

Think of it as a kind of IQ test! If you can figure out how to answer, you are smart enough to deal with problems/people. Good luck everybody!
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Old 16th May 2006, 12:09
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Originally Posted by Doug the Head
Letīs stop kidding ourself, otherwise nobody would ever pass a psychology test as I yet have to fly with the īSaintsī that some people pretend they are when attending a job interview!
Think of it as a kind of IQ test! If you can figure out how to answer, you are smart enough to deal with problems/people. Good luck everybody!
I think you have missed the point completely regarding psychological testing. They are not looking for 'saints'. They are trying to find out people's charateristics, demonstrating where they have strengths and weaknesses. The idea is that you do the profile and other tests, then you are interviewed, which is a chance for them to question areas of choice regarding the results to the tests, which you don't know.

In a properly administered profile consisting of hundreds of questions under strict time limits you have little time to try to fathom out what they are getting at. That is the idea. They want you to answer with your instinctive reaction to the question. If you don't answer all the questions within the time limit then they should make you do it again.

They don't ask obvious questions like 'are you are leader or a follower?' They will use several different questions which will subtly find out the answer to that question.

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Old 16th May 2006, 13:05
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I've successfully managed a personality transplant from ENTJ, to ESTJ by changing the way I answer some of the questions, while still remaining honest of course. (Basically by stating that I rely on facts and experience much more than theory and hypothetical outcomes - in reality I could go either way depending on several factors.) And this was from being quite marked in one direction to marked in the other.

Anyway, I did this as I heard that they particularly look for ESTJs - anyone know if there's any truth in this? Admittedly the source was not necessarily that credible.

Also I heard that one question asks: What's the odd one out: a) Candle b) Moon c) Electric light. Would love to know what that's about!
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Old 16th May 2006, 13:51
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I guess you could say "Moon" is the odd one out.... Only natural light amongst the three.
I certainly was pretty honest during my assessment and it worked. I am no saint either.
I see no point in changing your personality (if it's possible?) as they do not want clones. Just normal guys we all meet on a daily basis in every walk of life.
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Old 16th May 2006, 14:02
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Nonsense! You just have to lie consistently!
PP answered extremely well.

Go ahead and lie if you want to. The psychological questionaire is studied by the shrink. You will also have a probing interview with the shrink who studied your answers. The sim captains will then fly with you and write down any behaviours you may ehibit when under pressure or when critisized etc. The management interviewers will also have a stack of notes on how you answered their questions. They will then all get together and have a good old chat about you comparing notes and smelling a fish.

You must pass the WHOLE process, not just a psychometric test.

Oh yeah, I also asked one of the sim captains about the introvert extrovert thing someone harped on about. He/She had no idea what i was on about. Take that as you will.

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Old 16th May 2006, 18:38
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Tfly don't look for any one particular type. That sort of testing is a little dated now. They look for strengths in certain areas that any character can have. For instance, a simplified example is as follows.

They want people who possess leadership qualities. So, they look for strengths in the area of leadership. You can be introvert, extrovert or any kind of vert you want, but you need to display leadership qualities, which any type can have.....

And so the list goes on with other qualities such as decision making, communication skills, followership, spatial awareness, ability to work under pressure etc etc etc.

So I wouldn't worry about trying to change your personality for the tests, what I would concentrate on is being honest and consistent, then you can't be tripped up.

By the way, moon is the odd one out, as the other two produce light, the moon only reflects it. Best I get back on to Grainee for you Amex!

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Old 17th May 2006, 12:31
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Actually both answers are correct.

Amex is more the soft romantic whereas PP is a hard anylytical thinker.

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Old 17th May 2006, 13:25
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Since we both got in, it shows there is room for both types

PP is from the North therefore he is used to hardship. Me, I am a softy from down south who enjoys lazying about
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