Ryanair 5/4 Roster & 5% Pay Deal?
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Ok point taken. I do think that sim on our days off is wrong though.
There is another issue which exists that nobody seems to care about. There are experienced first officers joining the company who start on a much higher basic than many of the senior F/O's currently employed with more hours.
How can this be fair???? When the point has been raised - No answers!
Any new deal must also address these issues to ensure the pilot body is an equal and fair place to be.
There is another issue which exists that nobody seems to care about. There are experienced first officers joining the company who start on a much higher basic than many of the senior F/O's currently employed with more hours.
How can this be fair???? When the point has been raised - No answers!
Any new deal must also address these issues to ensure the pilot body is an equal and fair place to be.
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I thought the EU rule was 4 weeks leave + Bank Holidays. The 20 days leave is calculated on the assumption that a working week is 5 days, as in office workers. Don't get sold down the swanny with 20 days leave in a 24/7 industry. It has to be 4 weeks. It would be illeagal to reduce this, and by definition any duty at the company's request can not qualify as a day off. Thus how can you perform sims on a day off? It also follows that you can not de denied leave or forced to sell it back; only that in excess of 4 weeks. Any company can say what they want, but even MOL has to abide by the law.
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but even MOL has to abide by the law.
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Kinetic alluding to someones profile is wrong, which you did in one of your previous posts.
People have the right to say what they want whether right or wrong. It is an opinion on an anonymous forum. Please edit your post.
Going back to the supposed Agreement. My advice is that it sounds like a pile of
. There is nothing being offered to you, 5-4 is an illusion. It is 5-2 for all intents and purposes.
You are taking a pay cut with no t+c's to sponsor cheap tickets.
Do the right and only thing. REJECT IT.
People have the right to say what they want whether right or wrong. It is an opinion on an anonymous forum. Please edit your post.
Going back to the supposed Agreement. My advice is that it sounds like a pile of
. There is nothing being offered to you, 5-4 is an illusion. It is 5-2 for all intents and purposes. You are taking a pay cut with no t+c's to sponsor cheap tickets.
Do the right and only thing. REJECT IT.
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Ryanair pilot meeting.
Monday March 13th.
Hadham suite,Hilton hotel Stansted.
1100 and 1430.
Pilot committee available from 0900 to 1630.
If you care anything for your future,attend make your opinion known.
Monday March 13th.
Hadham suite,Hilton hotel Stansted.
1100 and 1430.
Pilot committee available from 0900 to 1630.
If you care anything for your future,attend make your opinion known.
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Flybe tried to pull a fast one on thier employees's too by changing from 6/2 to 6/3 ;they took control of the doil's(bank holiday) so they could use them for the extra 3rd day off.
Luckily enough it was spotted and balpa said it was an illegal manouever as you cant willing change contractual leave and bank holidays....beware
Luckily enough it was spotted and balpa said it was an illegal manouever as you cant willing change contractual leave and bank holidays....beware
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Well, its a whole article about the new proposed deal (title: Pilots Ponder Ryanair deal) ; which is apparently partly based on the info given in this thread (like the info that certain duties will have to be performed in these 4 days off as a result etc.).
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So now they come up with having different agreements based on each pilotīs base choice. Please donīt be foolish, and stick together. The best thing they can do in order to ruin our T&Cīs even more is to divide the pilot group. Stick together, and we will be stronger. And please, with inflation as it is, 1% rise per annum is a big decrease, not an increase. JUST SAY NO
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RYR-Pilots, check crewdock : Letter to all Pilots . But increas in CPīs salary ??? - I donīt think so, there are no figures mentioned! The hell, I should know, itīs an increase or decrease?!
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Just log in www.repaweb.org . There's been a lot of discussion on that .
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RednexThe debate elsewhere has move on a lot. I think most of us would prefer all of this to be done together in a non-public forum. Also, it's not quite so easy to answer your questions as the issues are being "re-framed" in the other debate.
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Just saw the article about the "mysterious" changes to schedules for Ryanair pilots in Flight International (I was late in reading it). I don't understand why someone can't just crunch the numbers to determine the net benefit/cost of this proposed change? Has someone done that already?
So, what's the deal? Will this be good or not for the pilots? I am thinking 4 days off is a nice break, but if you can't control your holiday schedule, then this might not be as great. However, you can take some nice breaks during those 4-day periods, right? Still pretty confusing...
So, what's the deal? Will this be good or not for the pilots? I am thinking 4 days off is a nice break, but if you can't control your holiday schedule, then this might not be as great. However, you can take some nice breaks during those 4-day periods, right? Still pretty confusing...