Flybe Ops Director joins list of resignations
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Well the time has come. The Ops director is not the Ops Director any more. What were you saying Raw Data? And to all the others that were living in dream land that the man remained in charge. He had a stay of execution last month being put in charge of safety and now the man has gone.
The question is was he pushed? I suppose it really doesn't matter. What does matter is will we see change for the good??
Another 9 resignations this month so far and with jobs everywhere you look I suspect there will be alot more.
I for one see hope for the company now. I'm just not sure if this latest resignation will be too late.
I struggle to understand why the chief exec has allowed the situation to go on for as long as it has.
The question is was he pushed? I suppose it really doesn't matter. What does matter is will we see change for the good??
Another 9 resignations this month so far and with jobs everywhere you look I suspect there will be alot more.
I for one see hope for the company now. I'm just not sure if this latest resignation will be too late.
I struggle to understand why the chief exec has allowed the situation to go on for as long as it has.
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Great news indeed for the future of Flybe. At least now the board will not be shielded from the truth and the problems can be proactively addressed. It has taken the board a very long time to see what everyone else already saw for many years.
Good luck Flybe, onwards and upwards
Good luck Flybe, onwards and upwards
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I have read all of the threads about this with interest but up until this point have seen no need to post, but it is driving me mad now. I worked with FlyBe for two years but are no longer with them. I on many occassions had dealings with the flight ops director and like stated before never had any problems with him. He was always up front and honest whenever I asked him questions. I think the problems with MW are more a function of the position he held than anything else. It is an impossible situation to be in being the liason between the pilot workforce and the management without putting a few noses out of joint. The suggestion that MW somehow covered up the resignations and the feelings of the pilots are complete rubbish. There was nothing to stop anyone who wanted to talking to the CEO at anyone of his visits around the bases or indeed in Exeter. I just don't feel it is appropriate to be gloating, especially when there may be circumstances involved that we are not privvy to.
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Yeah, two whole years. I didn't say that it was a good airline to work for, two years was more than enough to put up with the roster disruption that I was experiencing. MW might have had an input into the causes of this but I doubt it. It was purely a function of the airline expanding so quickly and recruitment at other airlines gaining momentum. Flybe will never retain staff as long as they use turbo props and jets of a non common type. By the way, a large portion of my disruption was caused by other flightdeck calling in sick, this included an agonising 3 day stint in the channel islands where each morning the captain called in sick after I had already reported from the hotel resulting in the flights being cancelled every morning. This female captain had a habit of doing this!!
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Well , I'm with AH. My enjoyable stay with Jersey European was only a little over a year as a contract pilot but I have to say that MW was always upfront with me. A few misunderstandings between crew sked and payroll were always cleared up once MW got involved. He always recieved my calls and seemed quite reasonable. I remember that even back then (6 yrs ago) that he was no ones favorite but I guess that's part of the job when tough unpopular decisions are being made.
Anyway , hope that all of you at Flybe are doing well and that the change brings better things in your future.
Anyway , hope that all of you at Flybe are doing well and that the change brings better things in your future.
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Flying Fiona lies, lies, and then lies again.
Read the staff notice, have you FF?
Simply put, the personal circumstances that brought about the original re-shuffle have worsened to the point where MW has no choice but to devote his time to other things.
Only a moron would use this situation to attempt to score cheap points. But then, we already know your moral level, FF. Taking another sickie, are we? You are a complete poltroon.
If you actually have access to the staff notice, FF - and I doubt that you do - you will read a ringing endorsement from the CEO, detailing MW's achievements during his tenure.
More to the point, he has always been very straight with me, and others have had a similar experience - see above.
Recent previous Ops Directors have been very poor, and it is hard to see anyone in the company who can step up. It will therefore probably be an external appointment - and many may come to remember the time of MW with great fondness.
On another note...
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Great to hear you are still out there... I guess that hotel must have made a real impact on you guys then!
Read the staff notice, have you FF?
Simply put, the personal circumstances that brought about the original re-shuffle have worsened to the point where MW has no choice but to devote his time to other things.
Only a moron would use this situation to attempt to score cheap points. But then, we already know your moral level, FF. Taking another sickie, are we? You are a complete poltroon.
If you actually have access to the staff notice, FF - and I doubt that you do - you will read a ringing endorsement from the CEO, detailing MW's achievements during his tenure.
More to the point, he has always been very straight with me, and others have had a similar experience - see above.
Recent previous Ops Directors have been very poor, and it is hard to see anyone in the company who can step up. It will therefore probably be an external appointment - and many may come to remember the time of MW with great fondness.
On another note...
royalterrace
Great to hear you are still out there... I guess that hotel must have made a real impact on you guys then!
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Ringing endorsement = The Sack
"You will read a ringing endorsement from the CEO, detailing MW's achievements during his tenure."
In football, any support of this nature, for a manager from the owner, is followed within days by resignation or sacking. Nothing new here then!
In football, any support of this nature, for a manager from the owner, is followed within days by resignation or sacking. Nothing new here then!
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Sorry, MW is keeping his shares.
RD. You are such an old fossil. You know nothing except how to shear sheep. Sorry but you are wrong again. The new Ops director was given the nod a month ago and it was an internal promotion. I'm sure Dash 7 Lover will tell you who it is. The Lover seems to know everything else.
This whole saga has been planned with precision over the last 3 months. YOU choose not to accept it.
Heebeegb go back to your hole. Your just a rich kid who buys promotion and brags that you did it on merit. How do you know so much when you don't even work for Flybe?
PS RD. I always used to like you. Maybe I still do, but just enjoy the banter!!!
RD. You are such an old fossil. You know nothing except how to shear sheep. Sorry but you are wrong again. The new Ops director was given the nod a month ago and it was an internal promotion. I'm sure Dash 7 Lover will tell you who it is. The Lover seems to know everything else.
This whole saga has been planned with precision over the last 3 months. YOU choose not to accept it.
Heebeegb go back to your hole. Your just a rich kid who buys promotion and brags that you did it on merit. How do you know so much when you don't even work for Flybe?
PS RD. I always used to like you. Maybe I still do, but just enjoy the banter!!!
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More lies.
Perhaps you would care to share with us who the new Ops Director is, then? Initials will do. Probably best I don't hold my breath...
[edit: never mind, I just found out]
As it happens, I know what has been happening (from the people it has been happening to), and I know you are well wide of the mark. Nice wind-up attempt, though. Bit like all your other wind-ups.
Like I said... a complete poltroon.
Perhaps you would care to share with us who the new Ops Director is, then? Initials will do. Probably best I don't hold my breath...
[edit: never mind, I just found out]
As it happens, I know what has been happening (from the people it has been happening to), and I know you are well wide of the mark. Nice wind-up attempt, though. Bit like all your other wind-ups.
Like I said... a complete poltroon.
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MW was always honest with me in my 6 yrs at Flybe, and did for me exactly what he said he would. his job was not a easy one which he did make more difficult for himself by trying to please everyone in every level, and then being caught in the middle not pleasing anyone !!.
I understand he has personal issues which currently dominate his life, and to which he must focus on as would any man!!.
A company cannot be distroyed by one man, and he has done many good things for Flybe, as well as a few questionable things for the workforce!!!!. It is scaremongers and mud slingers like FF that cause much unrest and unhappiness in a company!!!! .
FF if things are so bad why did you not leave when you had the chance???
I understand he has personal issues which currently dominate his life, and to which he must focus on as would any man!!.
A company cannot be distroyed by one man, and he has done many good things for Flybe, as well as a few questionable things for the workforce!!!!. It is scaremongers and mud slingers like FF that cause much unrest and unhappiness in a company!!!! .
FF if things are so bad why did you not leave when you had the chance???
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I think you'll find that FF threw a hissy fit a while back and left.
I always liked you too FF, the crewroom just wasn't the same without you.
Still, the stuff you have been posting is just plain nasty. I know you two had (many) run-ins, but our ex-boss has enough on his plate without your bitter rantings.
Give it a rest.
I always liked you too FF, the crewroom just wasn't the same without you.
Still, the stuff you have been posting is just plain nasty. I know you two had (many) run-ins, but our ex-boss has enough on his plate without your bitter rantings.
Give it a rest.
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RD.
Never had a problem with the man until he was plain nasty to me. I still don't hate the man I'm just glad to see him go.
He lost touch with the real world and thought he could do anything he liked. He was a typical front line cabbage ready to get shot and he carried those military traits into the commercial world of business.
I just hope that J.A. uses this window of opportunity to sort the massive problems that exist within Flybe.
PS. The company still doesn't want your skills even though they have just lost another 11 pilots last month. And no I didn't see the list on the ops admin wall. It was taken down because the company is ashamed of the attrition rate.
Never had a problem with the man until he was plain nasty to me. I still don't hate the man I'm just glad to see him go.
He lost touch with the real world and thought he could do anything he liked. He was a typical front line cabbage ready to get shot and he carried those military traits into the commercial world of business.
I just hope that J.A. uses this window of opportunity to sort the massive problems that exist within Flybe.
PS. The company still doesn't want your skills even though they have just lost another 11 pilots last month. And no I didn't see the list on the ops admin wall. It was taken down because the company is ashamed of the attrition rate.