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Old 6th Oct 2005, 16:55
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Angry Shame On You Air Macau!!!

Little is said on the Forums about this airline in the former Portuguese enclave, but it is run by a little Mafia of Portuguese trying to save their faces to the shareholders and the Board of Directors, WHATEVER IT TAKES. EVEN PUTTING AT RISK THE LIVES OF THEIR PILOTS AND THEIR PILOTS FAMILIES. Captain V.S. you have a lot to answer for.One Captain after coughing and spluttering through his flights ( shortage of pilots, but don’t tell the CEO and the Shareholders), was flying until it nearly killed him. He had TUBERCULOSIS. So what was done? This Captain was taken out of the country for treatment and positive testing. It then occurred to Captain V.S. that maybe maybe he had better test the last FOs who had flown with this man. After repeated urging by the Company Doctor. They, tested positive. So IN ORDER NOT TO UPSET THE SHAREHOLDERS AND THE CEO, they decided .... better not test any more , in case they test positive, otherwise maybe our heads will roll, because we will have to ground them. Then we will have to cancel flights and then we might loose our jobs. **** the pilots .. **** their families. Sooo this went on .... no further tests. The Company Doctor tearing his hair out trying to get Captain V.S to take some action.This was in July. Now the 6th October, everyone is getting tested, and yes guess what -- they are testing positive. This of course does not mean that they have the disease but............pilots are being grounded. Instead of action being taken, this selfish man was looking after his own A@*E!!!

Apart from a few co-pilots who will hang on to grim death (literally) to get a command there will be a mass exodus from this Airline, although maybe there won`t be if the BOARD OF DIRECTORS and CEO kick out the responsible people and for once appreciate who the true workers were. Fortunately I left there, this shocking news has come from a pal of mine who has decided that getting a command is not all it should be. So for those of you considering Air Macau, and yes there will be plenty of jobs soon. Suggest you take your own supply of Masks. BCG Vaccines and shotguns so that when you have to put up with bull**** and the skin tests and the x-rays and the rest of the crap........ Well anyway I have said enough. I pity all you guys there working for such small creeps.

This is one of the worst examples of Management mis-managing for their own
ends I have ever heard of ...............


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Old 6th Oct 2005, 21:39
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Does anyone want to work in Asia anymore,seems like staying in Europe seems a better idea till they figure out what the hell they are going to do about bird-flu.Good luck with your new life away from that hell-hole.
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This is indeed a sad state of affairs tonylollo, but I can`t imagine anything like this happening to Cathay and Dragonair can you.

But of course Management these days are fighting for their own arses and not their crews. I do wish well the pilots and their families this must be worrying times for them. Don`t know much about T.B. but pretty contagious isn`t it.

Don`t know too much about China but do know one saying
"what goes around comes around". Lets hope that the Management get their come uppance.

Anyone know how the poor guy is who contracted the disease, probably back on the line flying his balls off......... sad state of affairs when Managment think so little of their Crews.....
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Don't mean to dampen this wonderful bashing, but once I read "this came from a pal of mine....."

sigh!
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Dont bet on CX & KA. CX "ended" the contract of the company doc when he said the pilots & cabin crew were fatiuged and risk to flt saftey.

Asia is the same no matter what the facade is!

T.B. IS AS COMMON AS COLD IN MAINLAND CHINA
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Sorry Farrell I am confused so this is OK is it??? this type of behaviour gets your approval, whether it is me or a pal of mine is irrelevant, but your casuaalness makes me want to spit.... whoops better not though just in case..Pathetic, remark
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Old 7th Oct 2005, 14:07
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No mate, it doesn't get my approval at all.

I see that your original post on pprune was your very first.

Welcome to the forum. Now, when you have been on here for a while you will, like me, become tired of hearing people ranting on with second-hand information.

You cannot expect to make a 'call to arms' to other pilot's based on what is in effect only hearsay from your 'pal'.

You are brand new to this forum and nobody knows who you are.
Therefore you could be.....

1. A person called Tony Lollo - which I doubt

2. An existing Air Macau employee with an axe to grind.

3. An ex-Air Macau employee with an axe to grind.

4. A journalist fishing for the next scary in-flight disease story.

5. A host of other 'options'

So forgive my casuaalness (sic).

And another thing.....no civilised person on the planet 'spits' when they disagree with the views of another.
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Hey easy Farrell..... so what you joined once didn`t you ? You obviously had something to say. I feel that your remarks are offensive, why should he post something if he did not want to draw attention to it. It is a Rumours Page...... what if this guy wants to hide his identity........ who are you to judge. Perhaps you are one of the guys he refers to perhpas you are trying to cover your tail

1) Everyone is allowed to say as they feel.
2) You speak bloody good English. so don` t pick him up on his
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3) If the Moderator thought is was crap then it would be removed.

Maybe he is still with this outfit and wants to remain anonymous. maybe , maybe , maybe. but let him post what he wants mate. This is the Rumours Network, nobody said otherwise keep your pants on. Look through there are plenty of other airlines being pulled to the ground by us Bashers. This is what its all about.
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Given that the local (at tleast Chinese) press in HK and Macau loves sensationalist news stories and that anything to do with planes, passengers, SARs (or associated illness) or foreigners makes front page news I'm a little surprised that nothing has been heard of about this.

If indeed it happened.

And I'm sorry but there is something in the style of writing in the original post so reminiscent of the wind up trolls on local message boards....
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I too have just registered, ...... there is no freedom of the press Load Toad, maybe in HKG but not MFM. Unfortunately,wat the first person wrote is true...... and there has been a cover up.
although a bit too late. a bit kike SARS, a bit like Bird Flu,etc etc. you cannot compare HKG to MFM...... during SARS HKG and the airlines there acted admirably......... MFM 10 steps behind. This is cover up land mate. And it is only TB as somebody else mentioned but it doesnt make you feel better with that statement.
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What#'s this doing in 'Terms and Endearment'????

Anyway, a word to the hacks that trawl through these forums. Pick up the bloody phone and call Air Macau and ask them if the above is true.

Blimey, you jump and down when a plane does a routine go-around or an engine fails and yet it seems to me that here is a good story --a load of pilots being diagnosed with TB.

Air Macau will have to give some sort of response.

So come on then hacks, get to work!
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Old 8th Oct 2005, 15:51
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TB in Air Macau is "CONFIRMED"

During the SARS crisis, same thing ! ! ! Nothing was done to protect the Line Pilots. Now it is confirmed that Tuberculosis has spread throughout the Line Pilots ! ! ! To all my friends who still flies with Air Macau, it's about time to have yourself medically check.
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Alas Angel. do you think for one moment that they will admit to it. Of course not...... However maybe someone could contact the TB clinic who are down at the airport until the end of the month sticking pins into one and all............ It is a very sad state of affairs and yes you were right about SARS. It is unfortunate that what tonylollo says is correct one man is protecting his arse. Even now for those that have tested positive and started the drugs there has been an argument as to how long they should be grounded for. ( side effects etc).. TB Clinic Recommendation say 30 days...... yes you have got it buddy...... 10 Days,,,, gotta keep the fleet flying.

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Thumbs down

....shame on you Air Macao.....!!!!

Mister Arrowhead , where are you?You are working for AMU,aren't you?

Positive on TB test, and grounded? 1o days ,only,I suppose?

Tonylollo, ... the forum is made for that! Express yourself my man!


Cheers!
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Bull........ Arrowhead......

QUOTE "In Captain M's case, it activated, and he went down with this TB-like disease. "

TB Like disease????? what are you on about man. So are you saying it is not TB....... be specific. You STILL neglected
to mention that it took 3 months before there was anything done about it....... When the initial screenings were done it was the busy holiday season. V.S. couldn`t do without his co-pilots so after the initial testings it was too risky to test the rest. **** it you make me mad. 3 months waiting and now everyone can be tested is it OK now because the peak season is over.

Then you go on to add

QUOTE ""FOs who had flown with him were then asked to test for the disease in Macau. There was no cover up - come off it, there are no secrets in an airline, and none in Macau either. Some tested positive for the bacteria (exact number not known, but est 2-6). They did not have the full disease, and were given drugs and told to have a month off."""

Now those testing positive can only have 10 Days off has he stopped caring and resting the poor souls. What happened to the month off as the Company Doctor recommended and fought for.......

Just go and preach your crap somewhere else....... Sorry Speedbreak this guy talks out of his arse. Trying to put a compassionate view on the situation. It was covered up, well and bloody truly.

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Hey...arrowhead, I've flown with AMU for a long time to know the mentallity of your DFO and his puppets; they'll do everything, anything to keep their "ASS" where there are !
You're just another who would do everything, say anything to please V.S. and A.C. and definitely don't upset them !
You're making us throw up. Anyway, hang in there you'll have a bright future.
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Arrowhead is right on this one. Most asians, and some caucasians (who were exposed), when tested for TB will appear positive. Unless their resistance really goes down, then it will be full blown TB. But once tested, they can be given medication ( I'm not a doctor and memory is quite foggy on this ) which they need to take for quite some time before they can be given a clean bill of health. They need not have the symptoms of TB to be given such medication, just be positive on the tests.

Now the sad thing here is how management reacted to this situation. Too little, too late.
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Hi Arrowhead,
Sound like you want also to cover up the thing ... are you VS's puppets?

I ask a CAA doctor, he says that the TB's medications have to be taken for 6 months, and you must be grounded for the fisrt mounth.Medications are so strong for the liver..
10 days...good Mr SV or VS!Good!

Arrowhead, don't stay there...When some guys start to play with others's health...one day they will send you to death!
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