How hard do you work?
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,450
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From: UK
Jul 2005
Operator:
Fleet: Dash 8
Base:
Flight Time: 99 hrs block (90-odd sectors!)
Days away from Base: 3
Days Off: 10
Standby: 0
Roster Stability: Rubbish
Poor and Tired
Edited to note that just after posting this originally my roster was changed ....again but this time for the better so now only doing 91 hrs this month. Six sector days - don't you just love them?
Operator:
Fleet: Dash 8
Base:
Flight Time: 99 hrs block (90-odd sectors!)
Days away from Base: 3
Days Off: 10
Standby: 0
Roster Stability: Rubbish
Poor and Tired
Edited to note that just after posting this originally my roster was changed ....again but this time for the better so now only doing 91 hrs this month. Six sector days - don't you just love them?
Last edited by Megaton; 1st July 2005 at 09:04.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 202
Likes: 0
From: Far flung shores
Following covers 28 day roster period from 20th June 05 -
Operator: Astraeus (AEU)
Fleet: B757
Duty: 123 hours
Flying: 88 hours
Sectors: 11
Night Flights: 4
Standby's: 1 ( which is still pending, so the other figures stated above might yet increase )
Days off: 12 ( of which at home = 8 / down route = 4 )
Roster stabilty: pretty good
Feel knackered ?: Not really
Operator: Astraeus (AEU)
Fleet: B757
Duty: 123 hours
Flying: 88 hours
Sectors: 11
Night Flights: 4
Standby's: 1 ( which is still pending, so the other figures stated above might yet increase )
Days off: 12 ( of which at home = 8 / down route = 4 )
Roster stabilty: pretty good
Feel knackered ?: Not really
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 455
Likes: 0
From: planet earth
JUL 2005
Operator: RAF
Fleet: VC10
Base: BZZ
Flight Time: 35:00 - 65:00 (estimated)
Days away from Base: <10
Days Off: 8 (hopefully)
Roster Stability: Horrendous, and I am the section Leader!!
Feel tired: Yup, depending on how busy we are. I am also acutely conscious of it in my guys. 3/4 wends will be worked, and is an issue with some of the family men/ women.
Operator: RAF
Fleet: VC10
Base: BZZ
Flight Time: 35:00 - 65:00 (estimated)
Days away from Base: <10
Days Off: 8 (hopefully)
Roster Stability: Horrendous, and I am the section Leader!!
Feel tired: Yup, depending on how busy we are. I am also acutely conscious of it in my guys. 3/4 wends will be worked, and is an issue with some of the family men/ women.
Last edited by c130jbloke; 4th July 2005 at 10:24.
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 278
Likes: 0
From: Milano
July 05
Operator: Air One (AP)
Fleet: B733 & 734
Duty: 154 hours
Flying: 70 hours <-- Horrible duty/flying ratio
Sectors: 58
Nights away from base: 6
Night Flights: not this month; we usually get three nights freight flying every one or two months.
Standby's: 4 ( STBYs have let's say 40% chances to be employed )
Days off: 10
Roster stabilty: decent
Feel knackered?: Well.. Flying the Bus was more comfortable
Anyway, we get LOTS of check-in at 6am or so (10 this month): that's the main issue. The good part is that by 3pm you're done! 
Operator: Air One (AP)
Fleet: B733 & 734
Duty: 154 hours
Flying: 70 hours <-- Horrible duty/flying ratio
Sectors: 58
Nights away from base: 6
Night Flights: not this month; we usually get three nights freight flying every one or two months.
Standby's: 4 ( STBYs have let's say 40% chances to be employed )
Days off: 10
Roster stabilty: decent
Feel knackered?: Well.. Flying the Bus was more comfortable
Anyway, we get LOTS of check-in at 6am or so (10 this month): that's the main issue. The good part is that by 3pm you're done!
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
From: Belgium
SNBA
SN Brussels Airlines
Average 65 hrs block/month
Average 8 days (nights) away.
8-10 days off.
Very stable roster. 2-3 reserve days every 2 months ( that's the only unstable part).
Can't complain, apart from belgian salary....
Average 65 hrs block/month
Average 8 days (nights) away.
8-10 days off.
Very stable roster. 2-3 reserve days every 2 months ( that's the only unstable part).
Can't complain, apart from belgian salary....
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
From: UK
My EX-BF used to have a cushy time at BA on long haul, being quite senoir, got all the far east stuff so lots of time off etc etc....since then he decided to go to the triple, I think the extra money they throw at you give him eyes bigger than he had the stomach to handle...
Now I get is whinging as he has to fly a plane he doesn't want to fly, to places he doesn't want to go, probably as there are less opportunities to mis-behave down route, still I sure he's found a web site or two to fix that, and he only gets 1/2 nights and has to do more trips as they're for the most part shorter.
I know guys that would give their right arm for an opportunity like that....still no pleasing some people!
xx
Now I get is whinging as he has to fly a plane he doesn't want to fly, to places he doesn't want to go, probably as there are less opportunities to mis-behave down route
, still I sure he's found a web site or two to fix that, and he only gets 1/2 nights and has to do more trips as they're for the most part shorter.I know guys that would give their right arm for an opportunity like that....still no pleasing some people!
xx
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: outer space
July 2005
Operator
ZY
Type :A319
Block : 95hrs , 42 sectors
Duty : 139 hrs
Days off :11 days
Nightstops : 1 (usually none)
Roster stability : reasonably stable, some duty days change 4-5 times/month from 2 to 4 sectors and vice versa,sby`s to asby`s, contactables to sby`s and so one.
Tired: not during days off.
Always knackered from earlies, 2 sectors usually, sometimes 4 ( 3 out of 5 check-ins at 5.05 local, others just after 6.00).
Late duties, 4 sectors usually, much easier on the bus.
Not a bad job, but mostly a stepping stone unless something changes.
Operator
ZYType :A319
Block : 95hrs , 42 sectors
Duty : 139 hrs
Days off :11 days
Nightstops : 1 (usually none)
Roster stability : reasonably stable, some duty days change 4-5 times/month from 2 to 4 sectors and vice versa,sby`s to asby`s, contactables to sby`s and so one.
Tired: not during days off.
Always knackered from earlies, 2 sectors usually, sometimes 4 ( 3 out of 5 check-ins at 5.05 local, others just after 6.00).
Late duties, 4 sectors usually, much easier on the bus.
Not a bad job, but mostly a stepping stone unless something changes.
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
From: Around the corner
Jul 05
Operator: HLF
Type: 737
Block: 86
Days off: 13 (incl. 2 for June)
Nightstops: 6
Roster stability: 2-3 changes per month
Stbys: none this month, usually 3-5 days
Tired: I'm more the night-guy. So not really happy with the 5am's... (approx 8 per month)
Operator: HLF
Type: 737
Block: 86
Days off: 13 (incl. 2 for June)
Nightstops: 6
Roster stability: 2-3 changes per month
Stbys: none this month, usually 3-5 days
Tired: I'm more the night-guy. So not really happy with the 5am's... (approx 8 per month)
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 133
Likes: 0
From: frozen place
Operator: Air Canada (AC)
Type: A319-320-321
Base Montreal
Block: 83 Hours 23 mins
Night stops: 9
Days at work: 15
Sectors:21
Days off :15 (no reserve days when you have a fixed sched)
Stability: usually excellent except when weather starts getting involved
Tired: yes when I do redeyes 1 or 2 per month or very early mornings but does not impact my days off
Type: A319-320-321
Base Montreal
Block: 83 Hours 23 mins
Night stops: 9
Days at work: 15
Sectors:21
Days off :15 (no reserve days when you have a fixed sched)
Stability: usually excellent except when weather starts getting involved
Tired: yes when I do redeyes 1 or 2 per month or very early mornings but does not impact my days off
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 132
Likes: 0
From: UK
It is if they pull sickies.....my ex would be aable to tell you all about that one to
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Seriously tho, I know my dad used to bid for trips that were all in the first half of a month then have the back end of that month off, the next month he'd bid for trips that were at the back end of that month, so he'd get a virtually a month off, meant he was working hard for amonth straight but at least he got to spend time with his wife and kids
xx
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Seriously tho, I know my dad used to bid for trips that were all in the first half of a month then have the back end of that month off, the next month he'd bid for trips that were at the back end of that month, so he'd get a virtually a month off, meant he was working hard for amonth straight but at least he got to spend time with his wife and kids
xx
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
From: the beach
Ouch!!!
Reading these posts I realize that Euro pilots work their a.. off.
My Company Average:
80 hrs pay guarantee (will NOT fly over 80) (71 reserve)
65-79.9 block
11-16 work days/month
trades/seniority allow for much flexibility
My schedule:
I work 6on-1off-6on-1off-1on after trades (worse case) on a13 day month.
After vacation, half the year I work 10 days/month (6on-1off-4on)
I commute once a month to base and can get 15-40 days OFF in a row!
ALL overnights on base or 5-6 overnights on ETOPS
PEACE
Reading these posts I realize that Euro pilots work their a.. off.
My Company Average:
80 hrs pay guarantee (will NOT fly over 80) (71 reserve)
65-79.9 block
11-16 work days/month
trades/seniority allow for much flexibility
My schedule:
I work 6on-1off-6on-1off-1on after trades (worse case) on a13 day month.
After vacation, half the year I work 10 days/month (6on-1off-4on)
I commute once a month to base and can get 15-40 days OFF in a row!
ALL overnights on base or 5-6 overnights on ETOPS
PEACE
