How hard do you work?
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From: Dirty Sands
How hard do you work?
Now that all July rosters are out and for the sake of comparing fellow pilots lifestyles around the world, I think it might be interesting to run a simple exercise:
Could you volunteer to tell us a few details of your July's work, such us operator, fleet, position, base, hours, positioning, night stops, days off or any other info you may consider relevant.
OK, I'll start;
JUL 2005
Operator: JK
Fleet: A320
Base: PMI
Flight Time: 74:50 (+ 6:30 deadhead)
Days away from Base: 12
Days Off: 11 (+3 days rest)
Roster Stability: Dubious
Could you volunteer to tell us a few details of your July's work, such us operator, fleet, position, base, hours, positioning, night stops, days off or any other info you may consider relevant.
OK, I'll start;
JUL 2005
Operator: JK
Fleet: A320
Base: PMI
Flight Time: 74:50 (+ 6:30 deadhead)
Days away from Base: 12
Days Off: 11 (+3 days rest)
Roster Stability: Dubious
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 67
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From: uk
JUL 05
Operator: XLA
Fleet: 737
Flight time: 78
Away from base: 2 days
Days off: 18 (includes sby's which I can do at home, so I think of it as a day off)
Roster stability: fair
Tired? yes, too many night flights (80%)
Operator: XLA
Fleet: 737
Flight time: 78
Away from base: 2 days
Days off: 18 (includes sby's which I can do at home, so I think of it as a day off)
Roster stability: fair
Tired? yes, too many night flights (80%)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 38
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From: Bed
Jul 05
Operator MYT
Fleet A320
Flight Time 75:05
Away from Base 0
Days Off 8
Roster Stability Excellent. Stability window -2 & +3 hours on
roster. However, the crewing
department prefer to ignore this when
it suits them.
Tired Always
Leave 9 days
Flying duties 11
Nights 5
Duty hours 100:05
Operator MYT
Fleet A320
Flight Time 75:05
Away from Base 0
Days Off 8
Roster Stability Excellent. Stability window -2 & +3 hours on
roster. However, the crewing
department prefer to ignore this when
it suits them.
Tired Always
Leave 9 days
Flying duties 11
Nights 5
Duty hours 100:05
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 141
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From: UK
JUL 05
Operator: Ezy
Fleet: 737
Flight time: 107:50 hours (yes, that is correct)
Duty time: 165
Sectors: 58
Days away from base: 4
Days off: 10
Roster stability: something will change, but generally good
Tired? aren't we all?
(edit to add duty time & number of sectors)
Operator: Ezy
Fleet: 737
Flight time: 107:50 hours (yes, that is correct)
Duty time: 165
Sectors: 58
Days away from base: 4
Days off: 10
Roster stability: something will change, but generally good
Tired? aren't we all?
(edit to add duty time & number of sectors)
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ezy 60 sectors and 120.15 rostered flying hours this is norm for lgw based this could lead to 80 sectors as there are 7 days of 2 sector days
knackered
stressed
no life
minimum rest
oh and loads of money
no time to spend it
princebuster
we dont have max hours? crewing dont no about that one
perhaps a phone call should be made
May roster 40 sectors 81.51 hours and 17 days leave work that one out
knackered
stressed
no life
minimum rest
oh and loads of money
no time to spend it
princebuster
we dont have max hours? crewing dont no about that one
perhaps a phone call should be made
May roster 40 sectors 81.51 hours and 17 days leave work that one out
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GSS
744
Block 60
17 nights away
11 days off, (never less than 20 days work per month, including Feb)
0 standbys
Hours away from base 420
Tired? - lost a large proportion of those few days off to sleep and jet-lag. Then back to work.
744
Block 60
17 nights away
11 days off, (never less than 20 days work per month, including Feb)
0 standbys
Hours away from base 420
Tired? - lost a large proportion of those few days off to sleep and jet-lag. Then back to work.
Last edited by Jack's a dull boy; 29th June 2005 at 11:28.
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From: is a point of view
Jul 05
Operator: GSM
Fleet: 737
Flight Time: 112 Block
Away from Base: 0
Days Off: min8
Standbys: 0
Roster Stability: very good
Tired: Not realy (yet)!
POL.777 good to see that you got in, how is my previous club doing?
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Operator: GSM
Fleet: 737
Flight Time: 112 Block
Away from Base: 0
Days Off: min8
Standbys: 0
Roster Stability: very good
Tired: Not realy (yet)!
POL.777 good to see that you got in, how is my previous club doing?
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I've only made a few posts so I don't feel the need to order a Personal Title and help support PPRuNe
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Jul 05
Operator: VS
Fleet: B744
Block Hours: 80.5 (approx 10 of which will be 'bunk' time)
Nights downroute: 8
Days off at home: 14 (18 nights)
Standby days: 0
Roster stability: as a rock
Tired: Not really but jet-lagged all the time. Makes a good excuse for those afternoon 'naps' I frequently need when you get to my age.
The above equates to 4.5 trips: LHR-JFK (0.5 of a trip as it crosses the month boundary); LGW-MCO (twice); LGW-NAS/HAV (position between Nassau and Havana); LHR-SFO.
Duty hours away from base shouldn't be counted as we are still 'off-duty'. They are counted as 'time away from base'.
Company has very high Balpa membership with good, incremental basic salary, even better hourly flight pay, tax free cash allowances downroute and contracted to an annual flying limit of 750 hours. Add to that excellent staff travel benefits and agreements with almost every other ICAO airline worldwide.
The downside? The amount of time it takes from disembarking to getting on the crew bus when arriving as US airports with 18-22 crew. Everywhere else not a problem.
Operator: VS
Fleet: B744
Block Hours: 80.5 (approx 10 of which will be 'bunk' time)
Nights downroute: 8
Days off at home: 14 (18 nights)
Standby days: 0
Roster stability: as a rock
Tired: Not really but jet-lagged all the time. Makes a good excuse for those afternoon 'naps' I frequently need when you get to my age.
The above equates to 4.5 trips: LHR-JFK (0.5 of a trip as it crosses the month boundary); LGW-MCO (twice); LGW-NAS/HAV (position between Nassau and Havana); LHR-SFO.
Duty hours away from base shouldn't be counted as we are still 'off-duty'. They are counted as 'time away from base'.
Company has very high Balpa membership with good, incremental basic salary, even better hourly flight pay, tax free cash allowances downroute and contracted to an annual flying limit of 750 hours. Add to that excellent staff travel benefits and agreements with almost every other ICAO airline worldwide.
The downside? The amount of time it takes from disembarking to getting on the crew bus when arriving as US airports with 18-22 crew. Everywhere else not a problem.
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Posts: 102
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From: UK
My heart bleeds for you all.....
Just to ground you all in the real commercial world we work
60 hours a week!!
Weekends off technically but invariably have to catch up on those items that I was unable to during the week
Employee responsibility, HR (what a nightmare), Budgeting & planning etc
Be very grateful that you are doing something you love and are getting paid for it and when you get home you can forget it whilst you are off at least until the next duty day because the job is still getting done whilst you are off.
Just to ground you all in the real commercial world we work
60 hours a week!!
Weekends off technically but invariably have to catch up on those items that I was unable to during the week
Employee responsibility, HR (what a nightmare), Budgeting & planning etc
Be very grateful that you are doing something you love and are getting paid for it and when you get home you can forget it whilst you are off at least until the next duty day because the job is still getting done whilst you are off.