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Old 1st April 2004 | 22:07
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The Great Salary Survey

I suppose that I have been reading these forums for a while now and I find it strange that everbody alludes to, but never quite spells out the great salary debate.

Is it not time to have it all out in the open. Maybe the administrators could get involved in setting something up, but it would be interesting to hear from all.

Here are some pointers ...

Company
Aircraft Type(s)

1st year S/O
1st year F/O
3rd year F/O
5th year F/O
1st year Capt
3rd year Capt
5th year Capt
10th year Capt

Monthly Salary
Overtime Pay
Housing, Schooling, Commuting Allowances
End of Year Bonus
Allowances / Per Diems
Duty free days (at home) per month

Days of Paid Leave
Days of Paid Sick Leave (other leave)

Travel Benefits (Duty & Off Duty)
Medical Aid, Loss of Licence, Accident Insurance Etc.

And I'm sure, other categories that I can't think of. Obviously some indication of currency or conversion to USD would be appropriate.
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Old 1st April 2004 | 22:11
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*sniff* *sniff*

I smell a journalist!!
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Old 1st April 2004 | 22:17
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USA Pilot pay http://www.airlinepilotpay.com/
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Old 1st April 2004 | 22:31
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Yep, must be a journo if he's more interested in compensation than R/T procedures here on PPRuNe <g>.
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Old 2nd April 2004 | 07:13
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Talking



I wish I was a journalist. Just a poor pilot, looking for a better lot (like everybody) and hoping for some constructive answers.

Maybe the moderators could set up an online (anonymous) survey
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Old 2nd April 2004 | 07:23
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To get detailed salary analyses:

become a member of BALPA
become a member of IPA/IPF
check out PPJN

No need to involve Pprune Towers etc. They're busy enough!
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Old 4th April 2004 | 13:42
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Here are some pointers ...

Company - LCC anyname
Aircraft Type(s)- Brand new spiffy AirBuuuses or B737..

1st year S/O - Food stamps and on the Dole
1st year F/O Food stamps and on the Dole
3rd year F/O Food stamps
5th year F/O I can now afford a used auto
1st year Capt Why am I still here
3rd year Capt I hope this place stays in business
5th year Capt I hope this place stays in business
10th year Capt Companies gone..... now what.......

Monthly Salary- Looked good when I was unemployed.. but???
Overtime Pay- You are kidding right.. and holidays.. you crazy?
Housing, Schooling, Commuting Allowances- Forget about it
End of Year Bonus- You must think this is a real company..
Allowances / Per Diems- 1.00/hour whoooopeeeeee
Duty free days (at home) per month- enough to stay tired

Days of Paid Leave- Well hang around a few more years....
Days of Paid Sick Leave (other leave)- You have it.. but try to use
it and we will come down
hard....

Travel Benefits (Duty & Off Duty)- Tickets cost next to nothing
planes are full.. What benefit.
Medical Aid, Loss of Licence, Accident Insurance Etc.- You have it
but try to actually use it.. We
will fight you for every penny.
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Old 4th April 2004 | 17:37
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You want a salary comparison website? It's here: PPJN. Not good enough? Make your own. We've got quite enough to do already.
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Old 4th April 2004 | 22:20
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Dudly -
enough said!
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Old 5th April 2004 | 06:16
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Thank "scroggs" ... PPJN seems to have quite a bit of info.
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Old 5th April 2004 | 07:16
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TheVeryRightOne

What I can tell you is that Pilot's get paid to much for doing too little with lots of of time off (flight time limitations ensures that) and this time off gives them the opportunity to mull over they lot in life and how hard done by they are
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Old 5th April 2004 | 12:57
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Dont let everyone know that or they'll all want to do it!
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Old 5th April 2004 | 18:34
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I knew there was a reason I did this job!
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Old 8th April 2004 | 05:06
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Snoop

TR4A: where did you discover the website for US pay? Interesting.

TheVeryRightOne: what are the primary languages spoken where you live?
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