Swedishflyingkiwi,
Perhaps this was an example for them to see what they were looking for, or is this the actual recovered item? |
Fine business from Nick L 1st May 2011 17:36
Nick L,
I invite you to be in my craft as a crew member! Bingo! |
mm43
"I assume that the tensile strength of the attachment bolts is designed so that failure will occur without internal damage to the container." Yep. For example, the bracket that attaches the SLB (Sonar Locating Beacon) to the ADR of a Tornado A/C [SLB introduced by a MOD many years ago] has specific shimming requirements to allow the maximum "grasp" whilst being able to separate, in extremis, without leading to data section penetration or further damage. The drive unit etc are expendable. PS just re read your post and on looking at the enlargement there appears to be some visual evidence of possible penetration at the case circumfrence. Whatever, some great news indeed, fingers crossed. |
Snowfalcon2,
Will they continue search for the CVR, or is the FDR important enough for the ship to head for port? Or are there other ships in the area that can transport the FDR ashore? Both equipments are too important to they dare to transport it by chopper. Besides, I think that the Ile de Sein has not an helipont. |
Centrosphere
This rises an interesting question: these monitors must be located somewhere at the ship, where, maybe, other people analyzes the images from the ROV.... I would like to know if this is real time or not. Perhaps this photo was taken 'live' as they loaded the item into the basket. In the background you also see a lot of shredded debris... Rather than sorting through downloaded images, they are preferring a quick digital photo 'live' from the review room to release to the media as an indication of what is going on. Hi-res photos will be saved for the investigators, us normal people have to settle for what they feed us... |
For those having doubts about a potential FDR/CVR CSMU confusion, please take a look at my post #447 (hey, what serendipity!)
AZR |
Cylindrical CSMU for FDR
Henra, Nick L
Solid State Flight Data Recorder - Honeywell Aerospace This is another model but SHOWS a very important point: They are also using the cylindrical shape for FDR. Nick L warned and i am closing now the investigation. I think we can close the issue. Honeywell website was not update, BEA has the update and now let´s hope to find the other CSMU and to be both READABLE. Rgds, Mac |
First of all, I think there has been a huge, silent, sigh of relief that a memory module had been retrieved; a tribute to the determination and persistence of all - including AF and AB. I must admit I had the most severe doubts that anything useful would be found and I am delighted that it has. The possibility that the utter disappearance of a modern, well founded airliner was going to remain an almost unexplained mystery was not an edifying one.
Second, for all those SLF and uninitiated on here who, like me, have followed these threads from day one, has it been established definitively that the device recovered is the memory module - ie: the data itself - of the Flight Data Recorder? Roger. |
Nick L, I invite you to be in my craft as a crew member! Bingo! Kudos, Mac Thanks, and if I came off as an a** in my replies to you I apologize. Sincerely, Nick |
Dukane pinger on the BEA photo
Anybody noticed that in the third picture released today from BEA there is actually a "Dukane" (DK120?) ULB standing upright on the top of the wooden cabinet just near the left-down hand corner of the right flatscreen ??
http://www.bea.aero/fr/enquetes/vol....mages/fdr3.jpg So, with the FDR in the perspex box, that is what they are (were) looking for. http://www.rjeint.com/pdf/DK-120revD.pdf |
Cylindrical CSMU for FDR
AlphaZuluRomeo,
Perfect, Thanks! Mac |
glad rag
looking at the enlargement there appears to be some visual evidence of possible penetration at the case circumfrence. Thanks for your reply to my earlier posting. |
From the New York Times:
Because of its remote location, 600 miles off the northern coast of Brazil, it was expected to take eight to 10 days before the data recorder’s memory unit could be transported — first by boat, then by plane — to Paris, where investigators will attempt to download the information it contains. "Ile de Sein" took only three days to reach it´s present location from Recife, Brazil. So I believe the transport ship is coming from another place (France?), and heading there after meeting the "Ile". This is also interesting: After three failed searches, a team of oceanographers located the wreckage last month, barely six miles from the plane’s last known location. |
Ace
Nick L, (Age: 21, Posts: 5)
We must check everything. Murphy´s law never fail. And we fail despite being very careful. When you warned i started IMMEDIATELY to investigate. I will show to my crew (my kids) your "fine business". Good example. Best regards, Mac, (age 61) PS At your age i started my passion for aviation and learned to be careful. Doing maintenance in HF big transmitters, Data equipt., VHF and BIG, POWERFUL and DANGEROUS NDB. The RR (QRG 375 Kc/s*) NDB was like a MW Broadcast STN. Huge! * Now KHz |
Hi,
a tribute to the determination and persistence of all - including AF and AB |
Hi,
Because of its remote location, 600 miles off the northern coast of Brazil, it was expected to take eight to 10 days before the data recorder’s memory unit could be transported — first by boat, then by plane — to Paris, where investigators will attempt to download the information it contains. |
CSMU of FDR
Landroger,
has it been established definitively that the device recovered is the memory module - ie: the data itself - of the Flight Data Recorder? The rack found before is no longer important. Now the missing important part is the CSMU of SSCVR, also cylindrical shaped. Let´s finger cross. Mac |
As previously stated by the BEA, a French Navy ship will pick up the CSMU to take it to the nearest port under French control (most likely Fr. Guiana) from where it will be flown to the BEA labs.
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See this news article on the recovered memory unit. Investigators find black box from Air France crash - Yahoo! News
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Centrosphere;
"Ile de Sein" took only three days to reach it´s present location from Recife, Brazil. "Ile de Sein" departed from Dakar, Senegal for her voyage to the Recovery Operation Position (ROP). |
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