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Old 14th Sep 2019, 17:13
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It appears that one of the most elegant and cost effective headsets the UflyMike QC35 Bose combo isn’t TSO Certified? Is this an issue in EASA land?

Any recommendations on the more compact, high performance end?

Don't like BOSE own products either way too big or way too weird
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Evening

It appears that one of the most elegant and cost effective headsets the UflyMike QC35 Bose combo isn’t TSO Certified? Is this an issue in EASA land?

Any recommendations on the more compact, high performance end?

Don't like BOSE own products either way too big or way too weird
Telex 850 works well, no batteries and good enough level noise reduction/cancelling.
Small bag provided to keep them in your flight bag.
Very light, although in very long flights may become a bit uncomfortable due to lack of padding/protection on the upper part that rests on your head.

not as effective as Bose and equivalents regarding noise.

Price around 400/450 Euros depending where you buy it.

I believe Telex has come up with a new model equivalent to the 850 with similar specs and price.

The earcup covers are, after 5 years of continuous use starting to peel of, a set costs me 20 Euros.

If you are looking for something simple, effective, light and small and decent price the telex may be a good option.

If you want complete silence and/or features like Bluetooth connection and the such then look for a Bose or Senheiser.

A colleague has been using the ANR David clark, the small earcup version pro x or similar name, and it’s confortable, level of noise reduction similar to the telex, but double the price, looks more resistant though and the earcup cover that comes in contact with your ear skin is real leather, I’ve tried them and they are good, Only thing I don’t like is that batteries are required and I am sure I will forget to buy them and will end up flying with no ANR more than once.

Many colleagues swear by Bose and senheiser, they are really effective noise wise, but in my opinion they are expensive, bulky and require batteries.

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I've tried DC, Sennheiser and BOSE products and there is nothing I've ever now use except a BOSE A20. I really want to be able to hear my grandchildren laughing in the garden one day so I'm not prepared to compromise.

There is a good reason the A20 is so common on B737 Flight decks the world over. It's a noisy place to work and even at the price, it's very good value.
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Bose A20 every day.

What price for your hearing?
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I have Bose A20 provided by my employer and I second your opinion. I am not a fan of Bose products and find them too big. The DC Pro X and the new version seem good and I might give it a try.

We had Telex initially, I hated those headsets.
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The DC looks good, if expensive and slightly over the top on head pad.

Telex are a bit too flimsy.

Its a pity BOSE don’t modify their QC range to make a compact, cost effective, wireless headset for aviation.

Wireless is the way to go
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I don't think we will see wireless headsets for many years to come, due to certification requirements according to aviation standards.
Some pilots swear by Clarity Aloft, and they seem to yield great results with customized earmolds.
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DC Pro X is great once you get used to hanging up it’s battery pack and find the sweet spot over your ears. Even if the batteries run out the passive noise reduction is quite good.
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Lightspeed has a "wireless" headset. Seems more convenient for your own GA airplane than an airline though.
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All good recommendations. Most of these manufacturers provide a 30-day money back guarantee if you don't like the product, so you could potentially purchase two or more candidates and have a fly-off to see which you like the best.
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I’ve heard good things about the Phonak FreeCom 7100. Anyone tried those?
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Couldn’t handle the ear moulds for longer than a couple of hours, that’s what puts me off new BOSE, etc.

Frustratingly the relatively lightweight, compact UflyMike kit seems the best available. Equally frustrating is that it’s not TSO Cert..
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Also using the A20 on the 737 - sitting in there for hours and hours, the more noise is cancelled, the better.
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Outer ear infection Bose A20

Hi everyone,

During the last couple years I have been using a couple different headsets while flying the 737 (mostly Bose a20, sometimes standard Telex).

As I am suffering from a outer ear infection right now and because during the last years while flying I am suffering from this like 2-3 times a year I started wondering if it could have something to do with wearing the Bose A20 headset.

While using for a longer time I notice sometimes that my inner ear gets a little moist which is obviously a perfect environment (moist and warm) for breeding bacteria.
I have the same experience when using my Bose QC35 for a while when not flying.
I am cleaning both on a very regular basis.

Any of you have a same like experience? Or maybe someone has some ideas of alternate an alternate headset which would eliminate this problem?

I am thinking about something like a Telex ANR headset which is basically a on ear instead of an over ear headset like the A20 which would give my ear a chance to “breath” a little more.
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyJuliet
Hi everyone,

During the last couple years I have been using a couple different headsets while flying the 737 (mostly Bose a20, sometimes standard Telex).

As I am suffering from a outer ear infection right now and because during the last years while flying I am suffering from this like 2-3 times a year I started wondering if it could have something to do with wearing the Bose A20 headset.

While using for a longer time I notice sometimes that my inner ear gets a little moist which is obviously a perfect environment (moist and warm) for breeding bacteria.
I have the same experience when using my Bose QC35 for a while when not flying.
I am cleaning both on a very regular basis.

Any of you have a same like experience? Or maybe someone has some ideas of alternate an alternate headset which would eliminate this problem?

I am thinking about something like a Telex ANR headset which is basically a on ear instead of an over ear headset like the A20 which would give my ear a chance to “breath” a little more.
I used to find I got hot ears using my A20s on longer sectors. So much so, ear wax would start flowing… 🤢

I’m now using the Proflight 2 headset and haven’t found the same issue. Nose cancelling is perhaps a little less than the A20s, but you also don’t have the pressing on your temples when wearing glasses.
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