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Old 10th May 2019, 09:18
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Rhodes - LGRP

Just wondering, why is the PAR VORDME (108.6) named PARADISI on the approach charts, but called RODOS on the STARs?

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Old 10th May 2019, 09:31
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I think it’s a mistake. It’s not like that on my charts. PAR is PAR on all the SIDS/STARs and approaches.

Would need to to check on the Greek AIP.
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Old 10th May 2019, 10:03
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Originally Posted by Jonty View Post
I think it’s a mistake. It’s not like that on my charts. PAR is PAR on all the SIDS/STARs and approaches.
The ident seems correct on both, it's just the name label that's confusing.
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Old 10th May 2019, 10:35
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I thought the Greeks never make mistakes. At least that's what they say
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Old 10th May 2019, 12:01
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Originally Posted by Small cog View Post
The morse is correct. Wasn’t there a thread a few weeks ago by MoTML asking about why it was still required to learn morse in these modern times?
You don't need to learn Morse code. You do need to follow the morse code as it beeps away though.
It is because on some aircraft (light aircraft, training aircraft, non glass cockpit), the only way to identify an aid is by the morse code ident.
Before Cadetships and MPL, you required to really learn how to fly.
The Old Times were Good times.
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Old 10th May 2019, 12:24
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Originally Posted by The Shovel View Post
You don't need to learn Morse code. You do need to follow the morse code as it beeps away though.
It is because on some aircraft (light aircraft, training aircraft, non glass cockpit), the only way to identify an aid is by the morse code ident.
Before Cadetships and MPL, you required to really learn how to fly.
The Old Times were Good times.
Quite right Shovel the ‘old man is the wise man’ and all that....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tene...rport_disaster

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kore...go_Flight_8509
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Old 10th May 2019, 12:46
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As soon as I looked at that Rhodes chart, I found myself wondering why the sun was up in the sky, and checking my watch to make sure it was not 02.00 hrs.
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Old 10th May 2019, 13:39
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If you email Jepp, they'll fix it.
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Old 10th May 2019, 13:39
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greek AIP shows RODOS as name of both RDS and PAR on all the plates. my set of lido charts doesn't indicate a name for either of them, only identifier.
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Old 10th May 2019, 13:47
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That's why I always say the three letter ident in during RT.
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Old 10th May 2019, 13:50
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Originally Posted by sierra_mike View Post
greek AIP shows RODOS as name of both RDS and PAR on all the plates. my set of lido charts doesn't indicate a name for either of them, only identifier.
That's rather silly, especially as there appears to be an NDB in the vicinity with the same name. Somebody screwed up bigly!
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Old 10th May 2019, 20:08
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Neither Jeppesen nor Lido are error-free, even AIPs contain dubious stuff.
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Old 11th May 2019, 06:06
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Originally Posted by Check Airman View Post
That's rather silly, especially as there appears to be an NDB in the vicinity with the same name. Somebody screwed up bigly!
Not if you use the correct phraseology.
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Old 11th May 2019, 18:18
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Originally Posted by The Shovel View Post
You don't need to learn Morse code. You do need to follow the morse code as it beeps away though.
It is because on some aircraft (light aircraft, training aircraft, non glass cockpit), the only way to identify an aid is by the morse code ident.
Before Cadetships and MPL, you required to really learn how to fly.
The Old Times were Good times.
The ‘old times’ also saw more accidents and fatalities!
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Old 11th May 2019, 18:27
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan View Post
Not if you use the correct phraseology.
How so? What does R/T have to do with it?
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Old 12th May 2019, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Check Airman View Post
How so? What does R/T have to do with it?
Tenerife anybody?

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Old 13th May 2019, 07:11
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What does RT have to do with 2 navaids in with the same name, as in this example?
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