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TotalBeginner 10th May 2019 09:18

Rhodes - LGRP
 
Just wondering, why is the PAR VORDME (108.6) named PARADISI on the approach charts, but called RODOS on the STARs?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fbf3b06920.jpg
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Jonty 10th May 2019 09:31

I think it’s a mistake. It’s not like that on my charts. PAR is PAR on all the SIDS/STARs and approaches.

Would need to to check on the Greek AIP.

TotalBeginner 10th May 2019 10:03


Originally Posted by Jonty (Post 10467947)
I think it’s a mistake. It’s not like that on my charts. PAR is PAR on all the SIDS/STARs and approaches.

The ident seems correct on both, it's just the name label that's confusing.

RoyHudd 10th May 2019 10:35

I thought the Greeks never make mistakes. At least that's what they say ;)

The Shovel 10th May 2019 12:01


Originally Posted by Small cog (Post 10468027)
The morse is correct. Wasn’t there a thread a few weeks ago by MoTML asking about why it was still required to learn morse in these modern times?

You don't need to learn Morse code. You do need to follow the morse code as it beeps away though.
It is because on some aircraft (light aircraft, training aircraft, non glass cockpit), the only way to identify an aid is by the morse code ident.
Before Cadetships and MPL, you required to really learn how to fly.
The Old Times were Good times.

Captain Spam Can 10th May 2019 12:24


Originally Posted by The Shovel (Post 10468087)
You don't need to learn Morse code. You do need to follow the morse code as it beeps away though.
It is because on some aircraft (light aircraft, training aircraft, non glass cockpit), the only way to identify an aid is by the morse code ident.
Before Cadetships and MPL, you required to really learn how to fly.
The Old Times were Good times.

Quite right Shovel the ‘old man is the wise man’ and all that....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tene...rport_disaster

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kore...go_Flight_8509

staircase 10th May 2019 12:46

As soon as I looked at that Rhodes chart, I found myself wondering why the sun was up in the sky, and checking my watch to make sure it was not 02.00 hrs.

Check Airman 10th May 2019 13:39

If you email Jepp, they'll fix it.

sierra_mike 10th May 2019 13:39

greek AIP shows RODOS as name of both RDS and PAR on all the plates. my set of lido charts doesn't indicate a name for either of them, only identifier.

Banana Joe 10th May 2019 13:47

That's why I always say the three letter ident in during RT.

Check Airman 10th May 2019 13:50


Originally Posted by sierra_mike (Post 10468171)
greek AIP shows RODOS as name of both RDS and PAR on all the plates. my set of lido charts doesn't indicate a name for either of them, only identifier.

That's rather silly, especially as there appears to be an NDB in the vicinity with the same name. Somebody screwed up bigly!

Alpine Flyer 10th May 2019 20:08

Neither Jeppesen nor Lido are error-free, even AIPs contain dubious stuff.

Chesty Morgan 11th May 2019 06:06


Originally Posted by Check Airman (Post 10468183)
That's rather silly, especially as there appears to be an NDB in the vicinity with the same name. Somebody screwed up bigly!

Not if you use the correct phraseology.

Mooneyboy 11th May 2019 18:18


Originally Posted by The Shovel (Post 10468087)
You don't need to learn Morse code. You do need to follow the morse code as it beeps away though.
It is because on some aircraft (light aircraft, training aircraft, non glass cockpit), the only way to identify an aid is by the morse code ident.
Before Cadetships and MPL, you required to really learn how to fly.
The Old Times were Good times.

The ‘old times’ also saw more accidents and fatalities!

Check Airman 11th May 2019 18:27


Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan (Post 10468677)
Not if you use the correct phraseology.

How so? What does R/T have to do with it?

groundbum 12th May 2019 09:30


Originally Posted by Check Airman (Post 10469154)
How so? What does R/T have to do with it?

Tenerife anybody?

G

Check Airman 13th May 2019 07:11

What does RT have to do with 2 navaids in with the same name, as in this example?


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