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Old 30th May 2018 | 03:32
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NDB Approach Lateral Deviation

I'm reviewing aviation material. I was going over instrument appr. I was wondering in Europe and other parts of the world...what is considered being laterally off course for an NDB approach to where a go around would be necessary?

I can't remember what the answer is for in the states.

I was watching this video and the video seems to imply that 8 degrees or 10 degrees is considered out of bounds and would cause a need to go around during an NDB approach.

See time mark 32:14 of this video.


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Old 30th May 2018 | 04:45
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5 degrees in our SOP which is ridiculously low considering how much the needle fluctuates in the real world. In the sim it's doable tho.

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Your regulator will dictate what is acceptable. For example (Australian AIP):

ENR 1.5 Section 1.21.2
Can't descend on Final until "established", defined as:
Note: “Established” means being within half full scale deflection for the ILS, VOR and GNSS, within ±5° of the required bearing for the NDB, or within ±2NM of the DME arc.

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5 degrees in our SOP which is ridiculously low considering how much the needle fluctuates in the real world. In the sim it's doable tho,
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Old 30th May 2018 | 06:04
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The values shown on the tabular at 32:14 are the App Procedure DESIGN

If I'm not mistaking, for NDB/VOR App, a lateral deviation exceeding 5° calls for a GA
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Old 30th May 2018 | 10:19
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Totally agree with you TangoAlphad.
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Old 31st May 2018 | 06:25
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With those dern NDBs one is constantly flying tiny S turns
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Old 1st June 2018 | 00:28
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Anecdotal evidence reveals the New Zealand CAA tolerance in their particular manual for a DME arc, is plus or minus 2.5 nm. That seems reasonable. Yet in flight tests, some Examiners/ ATO's fail a candidate if he is outside plus or minus 1.5 NM which is ridiculous. If true, each Examiner seems to have his own ideas..
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Old 1st June 2018 | 16:03
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Anecdotal evidence reveals the New Zealand CAA tolerance in their particular manual for a DME arc, is plus or minus 2.5 nm. That seems reasonable. Yet in flight tests, some Examiners/ ATO's fail a candidate if he is outside plus or minus 1.5 NM which is ridiculous. If true, each Examiner seems to have his own ideas..
The FAA instrument rating standard for a DME arc is plus or minus 1.0 n.m.
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Old 4th June 2018 | 05:48
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Both DME ARC transitions and NDB approaches require a little bit of "Kentucky Windage"
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