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Old 21st Mar 2016, 23:18
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Originally Posted by de facto
And yet we go around every day during take off...
Not quite!!!

It is a lot more stressful performing a go-around than a take-off, that is for sure!

Every flight must have one take-off and at least one landing, but may not need a go-around.

Like Cpt Sully once said, if I had set that thrust a second later, we would have dodged those birds as we would have been in that very spot a second after.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 09:09
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It is a lot more stressful performing a go-around than a take-off, that is for sure!
Talk for yourself.
A go around is a normal procedure,if you find it stressful then maybe its time to go and practice before you are allowed to fly passengers.
Stress may happen if you are not mentally ready for a go around,this is good for any flying procedure..
Not being ready to go around while bringing yourself into a situation with very little escape route is understandingly stressful.
Risk management is as important as clicking on a switch,(same as t/o) setting go around thrust(same as t/o),pitching at 15(same as t/o) and retracting flaps to 3,,,(i meant 15),joke aside.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 09:12
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It may be normal considering that there are no failures involved in itself but it's "not normal" considering how often you do it.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 09:29
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Yet again you do it every day on take off...if you need,use flaps 25 for practice.
....and trimmed for it, in practice;generally at heavier weights and with planned thrust settings.........
Oh my,yes it is stressful when you put it like that...then if the trim is your issue,add the thrust in a normal way rather than yanking it foward,thrust settings could be planned,just have a look at your go around thrust in your aircraft qrh and use your other pilot to set the correct final setting.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 09:37
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If you consider going around at minima yes we kinda do it almost every day but GA can happen in many different situations, close to, but below MAA (watch out for level bust) or above it.

TO always starts from the same point in space and in a moment where your mind is not as busy as it could be while you're flying the thing.
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Old 22nd Mar 2016, 09:57
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I suggest you give your landings to your captain then and in the meanwhile ask for extra sim sessions to practice balked landings until your mind is at ease.
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Thanks for your advice but I can do hundreds in the sim but if then I don't do one in years for real it doesn't change much about my logic.
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All engine GA = stress/no stress? Guys say we do Takeoffs everyday; what's the difference, and you are further away from the ground? B737. Considering stress; why do some operators use a procedure different to a normal takeoff. IMHO that has the possibility of inducing stress by being unfamiliar with it. It is not part of an LPC and so not practice much. It was no big deal on earlier Boeings; it as the same as a takeoff. Now the B737 designers introduced the flap lever controlling the speed bug. Who ever thought that was better than the MCP window as per B757/767? There are operators who want you to start retracting flaps at 400'. That too is different. What's the rush? There is no need. There are operators who want you to fly the whole procedure manually, yet every takeoff is with A/P at 1000'. Why make a dodgy scenario more so? Daft IMHO. KISS.
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