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Old 6th November 2012 | 22:01
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777 to get folding wings...

Originally patented in 1995 for the 777, the 777X may have folding wings for airport access...

add that to pre-flight checklist...


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Old 6th November 2012 | 22:21
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Well that would be stupid and pointless. The 380 has an UNFOLDED and UNFOLDABLE wingspan of 261ft plus........................... And it seems to fit into many airports now.

I'd rather 'folding wings' was NOT in my checklist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 6th November 2012 | 22:27
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emmm... what's the count on 380 wing dings at the moment?
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Old 6th November 2012 | 22:31
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If it's a light load, could they be used as winglets???

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Old 6th November 2012 | 22:39
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BN2A,

If they have optimized the wingspan, winglets are even more worthless...

There was a concept A330 that had permanent 3/4 bent wings...not sure what happened with that.

WN...its about access...few airports routinely handle the A380...

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Old 6th November 2012 | 23:09
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Originally Posted by FlightPathOBN
WN...its about access...few airports routinely handle the A380...
Thanks my dear chap... I know ALL about the access. I am a 380 Captain

And it's WK.... NOT WN...

Originally Posted by Gemini Twin
emmm... what's the count on 380 wing dings at the moment?
emmmm. Two..... Both by the Frogs.................

What's the count on overuns, LOC, stupidity by idiots?????????????

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Old 6th November 2012 | 23:13
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WK,

Then you know there are gates the A380 can't use, but the 777 can.

The new 777 will actually have a significantly longer wing than the current one- I think they're talking 72 odd meters.

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Old 6th November 2012 | 23:21
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Well Wiz - the OP posts a diagram showing 233' for the 77X. Will you Boing guys make your minds up

And the 380's wingspan is 79.75m! Significantly MORE than the
72 odd metres
you come up with!

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Old 6th November 2012 | 23:37
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Stahp!

If you guys keep this up we will be subjected to the size of you watches, billfolds and willys by page two of this thread.

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Old 6th November 2012 | 23:42
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WN,

What is your point?
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Old 7th November 2012 | 01:22
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His point is, he's a 380 Captain......
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Old 7th November 2012 | 01:35
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Yeah, what IS your point, WK?

That they should build a new 777 that can't park many places old ones can?

Or is any where the A380 can't go not worth going to??

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Old 7th November 2012 | 03:06
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Back in the late 80s, Boeing built a replacement wing (carbon fiber, instead of the original aluminum) for the A-6 Intruder, which included a new wingfold mechanism. IIRC, Grumman wouldn't let them use the original design...

I wonder if this would be a similar design?
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I do seem to remember the original 777 design did have the folding wingtips as an option, but wasn't taken up.
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Old 7th November 2012 | 08:35
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This reminds me of the old adage "if something can go wrong, then sooner or later it will".

I waited for sixteen years, and it went horribly wrong.
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Old 7th November 2012 | 08:55
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So you include carbon fibre to make it more lightweight first and then you add heavy joins and structure to make it foldable - for just ten feet gain on each side? Not likely to happen.
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Old 7th November 2012 | 09:05
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bear in mind the original Boeing 777 idea was to continue using smaller airport gates which saves money . Plenty of airports with parking for big wings but they charge you more for the privelige , but if you dont need a 747/380 gate you save money. the other issue is the length of the aircraft which is more restrictive in a lot of places than the wingspan !
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Old 7th November 2012 | 09:10
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I'll start worrying when Boeing add the launch-bar on the nose-gear for EMALS/catapult launches!
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Old 7th November 2012 | 09:14
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Not a single airline ordered the folding wing option on the old 777 that got actually developed and offered by Boeing back then (For KLGA's gates IIRC).
Boeing used the wing volume and space for more fuel instead and created the -300ER.
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Old 7th November 2012 | 09:32
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Why extend, why not just stick another one on top. Think of the extra fuel/weight you could carry. Call it the 777XX.
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