SID/ STAR name designator.
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SID/ STAR name designator.
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Just a quick question: is there any rhyme or reason behind SID and STAR names? What does (eg.) the "1A" in a PASPU1A SID mean in the SIN charts. Or what about the "5P" in MONTY5P STAR in the MEL charts?
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OneTwoTree
Just a quick question: is there any rhyme or reason behind SID and STAR names? What does (eg.) the "1A" in a PASPU1A SID mean in the SIN charts. Or what about the "5P" in MONTY5P STAR in the MEL charts?
Thanks!
OneTwoTree
Or what about the "5P" in MONTY5P STAR in the MEL charts?
Can one fly only a transition portion of the MONTY STAR, or does one always go with the full MONTY?
At VIE for example, a SID is named for its terminal waypoint, its issue and its departure runway. A departures leave from Rwy. 11, B departures from 16, C from 29 and D -you guessed it, I am sure - from 34. In the rare instance of two different routes from the same runway to the same fix, the secondary one is appended with an X instead.
So the ABLOM 5D will be the 5th revision of the ABLOM-bound Rwy. 34 departure.
At other fields, other systems may be used: at LEJ, departures from the northern runway (08L/26R) often have an N and those from the southern one carry a S (TORPU 2N or TORPU 2S for example).
So the ABLOM 5D will be the 5th revision of the ABLOM-bound Rwy. 34 departure.
At other fields, other systems may be used: at LEJ, departures from the northern runway (08L/26R) often have an N and those from the southern one carry a S (TORPU 2N or TORPU 2S for example).
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I think TU144 has got it right.
In the UK I believe that it goes like this
BPK5T
BPK is the end of the SID
5 is the revision number
T is the runway designator - in this case RWY27 at EGLC.
There are other BPK departures for other airfields in the London area e.g. BPK7F is for EGLL
In the UK I believe that it goes like this
BPK5T
BPK is the end of the SID
5 is the revision number
T is the runway designator - in this case RWY27 at EGLC.
There are other BPK departures for other airfields in the London area e.g. BPK7F is for EGLL
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At the risk of being flamed from drifting from STARS to waypoint names I reckon our Oz ATC mates probably should win the award for creative waypoint naming, there's a string of waypoints of the West coast of W.A., Australia...., from north to south they are:
WONSA JOLLY SWAGY CAMBS BUIYA BYLLA BONGS UNDER ACOOL EBARR TREES
Further east there's the string of waypoints:
WHOOL.WINDA, WILAM ,WHEBB, ELLIS ,TROPHY
At the risk of being flamed from drifting from STARS to waypoint names I reckon our Oz ATC mates probably should win the award for creative waypoint naming, there's a string of waypoints of the West coast of W.A., Australia...., from north to south they are:
WONSA JOLLY SWAGY CAMBS BUIYA BYLLA BONGS UNDER ACOOL EBARR TREES
Further east there's the string of waypoints:
WHOOL.WINDA, WILAM ,WHEBB, ELLIS ,TROPHY
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ITAWT ITAWA etc.
In the States it is the rather famous "Looney Tunes" approach (RNAV RWY 16) to KPSM (Portsmouth, NH - the old Pease AFB).
Waypoints are ITAWT, ITAWA, PUDYE, TTATT (with missed approach IDEED).
Waypoints are ITAWT, ITAWA, PUDYE, TTATT (with missed approach IDEED).
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Corrections:
The WONSA etc waypoints were not a creation of OzATC but VP EK Flight Ops Support, gent with a strong sense of humour. ITAWT etc was Sylvester and Tweetie (actually Tweetie's line).
Anal I know, sorry, couldn't help myself!
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The WONSA etc waypoints were not a creation of OzATC but VP EK Flight Ops Support, gent with a strong sense of humour. ITAWT etc was Sylvester and Tweetie (actually Tweetie's line).
Anal I know, sorry, couldn't help myself!
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True, reynoldsno1, the waypoint STAR sequence for Brisbane RWY19 is LEAKY : BOATS : SINKK. From the opposite direction, also terminating at SINKK is DRAIN : PLUGG : SINKK.
Good that someone has a sense of humour. On a slightly more serious note, can anyone verify that Brisbane Terminal Area's COTON waypoint honours Sydney Cotton (of Sidcot flying suit and 3rd Reich spy flights fame). It's placed very close to the original Cotton family's homestead.
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Old Smokey
Good that someone has a sense of humour. On a slightly more serious note, can anyone verify that Brisbane Terminal Area's COTON waypoint honours Sydney Cotton (of Sidcot flying suit and 3rd Reich spy flights fame). It's placed very close to the original Cotton family's homestead.
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The guy providing waypoint names for procedures in AUS had quite a flair, unfortunately, like all good things, that has also come to an end..no more fun names, and waypoints are being converted...
As well as those mentioned, there was BESST BEERN CHIPS
The ones that had the most interesting significance, were for the first RNP procedures into PSP
The FAA gave HOPYU, FUGOV, MORON, PUTRD, PUTOV
there is SBONO near PSP as well.
As well as those mentioned, there was BESST BEERN CHIPS
The ones that had the most interesting significance, were for the first RNP procedures into PSP
The FAA gave HOPYU, FUGOV, MORON, PUTRD, PUTOV
there is SBONO near PSP as well.
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The guy providing waypoint names for procedures in AUS had quite a flair, unfortunately, like all good things, that has also come to an end
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oh I know, now the waypoints have to start with the last 2 of the aerodrome...unless there is already that, then its the first 2, then who knows what....boring.
I did PASC, Deadhorse, but ASC is Ascension, so its SCC.....
then there are the 'unpronounceable' waypoints used in nav, but never spoken over the air...
I did PASC, Deadhorse, but ASC is Ascension, so its SCC.....
then there are the 'unpronounceable' waypoints used in nav, but never spoken over the air...
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