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Old 2nd May 2012, 11:09
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Procedure Track Approach

Has ANYONE here ever heard the term "Procedure Track Approach" used in a approach clearance. Case in point is a clearance that reads, "Cleared ILS runway 24 Procedure Track Approach"? Airport in question is EINN.

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Never heard of it, and the chart is normal - no notes or notices. If you heard it, I assumed you queried it? Or did you overhear it given to another aircraft?
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Saw it in a unofficial doc that was written by an Air Force C17 guy. Suspect that it may be an USAF term and will check here in an hour or so.
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This must be the phraseology the controllers use when referring to the full approach from SHA, it's simply a CAT 1 ILS and listed as such at he top of the plate.
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Well that's the point of the question. Is this in fact, the terminolgy that a Shannon ocntroller would use or is it what this AF pilot just thinks he would use? My C17 guy just came in and he thinks that term may be in an AF doc so we are looking for it now.

Have posted this in the ATC section as well so hopefully someone will come forward with an answer.
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That will be my guess, CAT A/B and C/D have a separate "Tracks" to be followed, but in most of the world, ATC would just clear you for the ILS RW24.
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Thanks, but in this case a guess is not good enough
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That'd be USAF jargon,yee-ha colloquialisms.
Expect standard ICAO phraseology in Europe.
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I believe it is a Terps expression, so I guess 'Paddy' had been watching 'Dallas' or whatever and got a bit over-excited
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Could it possibly mean "expect a procedural approach to the ILS as Radar (vectors) unavailable today" (hopefully notamed.)

Not heard your exact words before but just a thought.
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