Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

QNH to QFE? (need help with chart)

Wikiposts
Search
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

QNH to QFE? (need help with chart)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11th Jan 2012, 12:58
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Tropopause
Age: 40
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
QNH to QFE? (need help with chart)

So I can't seem to understand this chart.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...43973570_n.jpg

On the bottom it has two little examples.
For number 1) I understand the correction of -200, but I don't get how the 2300ft QFE = 933 HPa.

And I don't understand any of question number 2.

Anybody?
Thanks!
WhySoTough is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2012, 13:36
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: EDDF
Age: 43
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Example 1:
Lookup QNH = 1020 in the left column of the table.
The corresponding correction in the middle column is -200 ft.
The elevation is 2500ft, after correction it is 2500-200 = 2300ft.
Look this value up on the right side of the scale on the left side of the picture and read the corresponding QFE on the left side of the scale. QFE = 933 hPA

Example 2:
Locate QFE = 980 hPA on the left side scale and find that the corresponding pressure altitude reads 920 ft. The actual elevation is 1500 ft, so the correction is (920-1500) = -580 ft.
Looking up -580 in the middle column of the table yields the corresponding QNH of 1032 hPA in the left column.

ATCast
ATCast is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2012, 15:25
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Tropopause
Age: 40
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
ATCast,

Thanks very much for your quick response.
Can you/ or someone else, explain to me this.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...29267774_n.jpg

Is this basically just showing us for a certain TAT, at a certain pressure altitude, this is what our EPR will be?
Not sure what EPR is.
WhySoTough is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2012, 15:44
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: EDDF
Age: 43
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not 100% sure, but if I understand it correctly it shows you the Maximum Continuous EPR for given TAT and pressure altitude for a IAE 2527(E) engine.
EPR is Engine Pressure Ratio, the ratio of the core nozzle outlet pressure and the inlet pressure. It has it's own thread running.
ATCast is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2012, 15:57
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Tropopause
Age: 40
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks a lot for the help ATCas,

One last one for you.
In the first chart I sent you, calculating the QNH or QFE.
Is it always correct if for such questions I only calculated 30 feet per HP and do it myself, rather than confuse myself with the chart?

1) 2500/30 = 83
1020-83 = 937. Comes pretty close if it were a multiple question.

Thanks again.
WhySoTough is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2012, 17:38
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: EDDF
Age: 43
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It comes pretty close, especially for the lower elevations, so you could use it as a check to verify if your result obtained from the chart is correct. See for yourself if it works for Cochabamba airport in Bolivia (elevation 8360) and QNH 970.

On the other hand you are 4 hPa off in your example, and according to your 30 ft / hPa rule that is 120 ft too low. I am not sure if you'd be comfortable with those kind of errors when it comes to say... decision height?

Good luck on the tests!
ATCast is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2012, 18:00
  #7 (permalink)  
Per Ardua ad Astraeus
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 18,579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
30'/mb(HP) only 'works' at sea level in a Standard Atmosphere, going from 30ft to many Km near the edge of the atmosphere, to, in theory, infinity..
BOAC is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.