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ANA Japan roll incident.

Old 12th Nov 2011, 04:36
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Is there a new feature being rolled out on Boeings enabling reverse flight? According to the Sydney Morning Herald in Australia, "Images from the flight recorder on the Boeing 737-700 showed the plane veered to the right and then sharply to the left, before dropping backwards."

ANA plane plunges after pilot presses wrong button
Like a tailslide? Just to put the fun back into airline flying... Now I'd pay to see that!
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Old 14th Nov 2011, 12:56
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For visual comparison, a picture of two knobs (thanks to Randy):

A Passenger Airplane Basically Flew Upside Down Because of a Dumb Pilot (Updated)

It turns out there's a few variations on a theme:

Japan's ANA: Crew error sent jet into nose-dive - Article Comments - View topic - General Discussion - Article Talk : Denver Colorado Neighbors

Does anyone know which one matches the ANA panel?

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Old 31st Aug 2012, 21:20
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Wings Stay on - Wings fall off

I was sure this was just a Far Side Cartoon...

ANA pilots unaware for 17 seconds that plane was almost turning upside down ? Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion


The pilot and copilot of an All Nippon Airways plane were unaware for 17 seconds that their aircraft almost turned upside down during a flight last year, the Japan Transport Safety Board (JTSB) said Friday in a report on the incident.

The ANA flight, with 117 passengers and crew on board, dived 1,900 meters in 30 seconds in the incident off the southern Shizuoka district on Sept 6, 2011.

The maneuver happened when the co-pilot, in trying to unlock the cockpit door for the captain who was returning from the toilet, mistook a command button for the cockpit door lock switch nearby.
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 02:08
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Been there, done that.

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Old 1st Sep 2012, 07:38
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I think the post was more about the cartoon than it was the actual upset event, and a recent report on the incident was inserted to provide context.

I have also been told my life would be much less complicated if I would stop thinking.

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Old 1st Sep 2012, 12:10
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I've always felt the Door Lock and Pitch Trim Cutout buttons were a bit too close together on my machine. And they look the same!!

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Old 1st Sep 2012, 12:13
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That cartoon is the funny I hope they just let it go...I think in history simialr events have happened numerous --flap/gear mix ups on older pistons and such...The cartoon is accurate, as to how some disasters are caused...by the OEM not thinking...
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 18:21
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All Nippon 737 goes into dive by pilot's mistake


Just read on the italian news Corriere della Sera that an All Nippon 737 went into a dive by mistake.
Apparently the pilot instead of opening the door to the captain,who had gone to the loo,pushed a wrong button and put the aircraft into a steep dive,losing about 6'000 feet in 40".

Has anybody heard anything?could it be just fake or maybe exagerated?

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Old 1st Sep 2012, 19:30
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Not fake, but hardly a "news" today...
The event occured sept. 6, 2011, and I think a search will pull some topic about it in the forum
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Old 1st Sep 2012, 19:32
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We all know you Italians like to take things a bit slower, but this is taking things to a whole new level. How you guys doing paying of your trillion euro debt? Still on track for 400 years?
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 21:36
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This is a wonderful exemplar of a typical Boeing-style upset,
Yaw x Roll = Dive!
No pitching moment needed for the resulting steep nose-low attitude.
Hmmm - did you have in mind an example of a plane (except maybe symmetrical-airfoil aerobatic planes) that won't end up nose-down after a yaw/roll to inverted?
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 23:53
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Those darn Boeings, rolling and upsetting people, they should just cause the vert stab to fall off and fix the problem permanently.!!

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