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Old 28th Feb 2011, 10:08
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Calculate height/distance

Hi, I have been looking at the approach plates for ACE and see that on the VOR for 21 there is not height/distance information for the descent. Can anyone explain how you calculate this yourself? The platform is 3600' it's a 3.54 degree slope and the descent starts at 9.7 dme.

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Old 28th Feb 2011, 10:21
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It's as well to memorise that a 3 glide slope is about 1 in 20.

A 3.54 glide slope is about 1 in 16.

The way to calculate this yourself is to put your cheap calculator in "degrees" mode, type in "3.54", then press the "tan" key, then the "1/x" key.

Or you can do it without a calculator as follows. You can remember, as above, that 3 is 1 in 20, note that 3.54 is 18% higher (54/3 = 18), and take 18% - let's say 20% - away from 20 to get 16, for your 1 in 16.

This simple arithmetic is not mathematically-bomb-proof accurate, but it's good enough for aviation. You can use it for glide slopes, but after about 8-10 you'd need to start putting in second-order corrections.

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Old 28th Feb 2011, 14:19
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Hi Bobbyboo,

Determine the altitude to be lost, divided by the horizontal distance to be flown expressed as X ft per nm. (approx 360 ft / mile in your example). Plot your table with distance from VOR versus Altitude using X ft per mile. (From your known start point.)

ROD on 3 deg slope at 140 kts ground speed = approx. 700 ft / min (half the GS trick * 10) Your 3.54 slope is about 20% steeper so add 20% to get required ROD from 3 deg trick. (700 + 140 = 840 ft per min)
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Old 28th Feb 2011, 15:15
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KISS method

The platform is 3600' it's a 3.54 degree slope and the descent starts at 9.7 dme.
I am not sure what do you mean by platform.
But "3.54 degree slope and the descent starts at 9.7 dme" is enough :

Ht diff = Slope deg x NM x 106.05 (here you get 3642 feet !)

if it is an ILS GS then

Ht diff = ( GS deg + NM / 120 ) x NM x 106.05

If you need a rate of descent then:
Rod ( '/min)= 1.767 x GrdSpd x Slope deg

and any time during descent a quick 3.14 deg slope NM = ( Alt - Elev ) x 3 /1000

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