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Old 25th May 2010, 09:40
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I think the problem for both Airbus and Boeing is that if they make a 737-a320 replacement big/heavy enough to also replace the 757-762-A300-A310 in the 200-260 short/medium range segment, a shrink to cover 150 seats will become too heavy to compete effectively with stretched, lean CSeries variants optimized for 130-160 seats and possibly Embraer.

So I expected a bigger wing and engine for the A320, A321 and possibly longer stretches to cover >170 seats and higher payload/range and a new design smaller and lighter then the 737/A320 to compete effectively in the huge 130-170 seat short/medium range segment.. Flights longer then 2000nm/4 hrs are really a niche globally..

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I faked a 5 row stretch of the A321 with the Indian double bogey, PW1000 GTF engines and stretched wing/sharklets.

Could be a 757, 762, A330, A310/TU154 replacement.

Fly Airways A322 NEO Fake Aviation Design - Modified Airliner Photos

It seems Airbus has its engineering resources stretched however, so little chance.

Airbus engineers review A320 upgrade plan | Reuters
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Aircraft in the 200-250 seat segment virtually not exist, so they are hard to find on these "global flight analysis" charts. The price question is: will airlines always and forever fly the same pax-range as they do today, or will they switch to other aircraft if available.
Given the high number of frequencies between some cities larger short range aircraft can make sense (but don't need to, if airlines prefer to keep frequency).

The current standard aircraft (A320, B737-800) were designed with the stretch in mind, so they are heavier than really necessary for the mission.
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Did you put similar doors on all four exit locations?
Usually the A321 uses smaller Type I exits at 2nd and 3rd exit lane, enlarged exits at 2nd exit lane are options.
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Hi Cabinmaster, a lot is left out. It's more about the general idea, concept.

I think the 200-250 seat segment isn't that small. If we add up all the 757s, 762s, A300s, A310s, Tu154s and a lot of twin aisles that are (mis) used in the segment I think it's a reasonable market.

Yesterday I cut and pasted a more radical re-engining of the 737, in case Boeing thinks a limited "plus" won't pull them into the 2020s.




The cockpit should also be considerable less noisy.

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