Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

Ceiling effect (in stead of ground effect)


Notices
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

Ceiling effect (in stead of ground effect)

Old 20th March 2010 | 15:25
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
From: A long way from home
Ceiling effect (in stead of ground effect)

An aerodynamic conundrum has struck me:

OK, I'm bored down route and I've bought an RC helicopter to while away the hours until the boss decides he wants to go home. As I fly it over the coffee table and bed in my hotel room there's a marked difference in ground effect.

The strange thing is that as it gets closer to the ceiling it also seems to get more lift there. Is there some sort of "ceiling effect" or am I just crp and this is just caused by the same things as table leg effect, chair effect, lamp effect and wall effect?
welliewanger is offline  
Reply
Old 20th March 2010 | 16:04
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,270
Likes: 0
From: UK
Hi welliewanger,

I've seen the same Bernoulli effect is in a science museum, where a disc of plywood is sucked onto the ceiling over the spot where a stream of air is flowing from the ceiling.

The air flow down wash from the blades has to be replaced with an air flow onto the top. Near the ceiling, this replacement airflow is squeezed between the "disc" of your helicopter blades and the ceiling, so you get a drop in pressure over the top of the blades.
rudderrudderrat is offline  
Reply
Old 20th March 2010 | 16:26
  #3 (permalink)  

"Mildly" Eccentric Stardriver
25 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Aviation Qualifications: ATP+Mil
Posts: 4,332
Likes: 486
From: England
So when we get near to the big blue dome that covers the earth, we use less fuel?
Herod is offline  
Reply
Old 21st March 2010 | 13:37
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
From: Australasia
blockage effect

yep,

The ceiling causes a beneficial change in inflow angle which leads to less pitch required, hence less drag and less power required compared to free air.

Stay Alive...
4dogs is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.