LOFT Scenaros Anyone?
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We'll have to agree to disagree, I feel.
From my perspective, a LOFT exercise should be as much about CRM as re-inforcing technical skills and QRH usage - there are lots of other mandatory handling skill checks each year. It is important that we as flight crew understand the implications of our calls to the cabin, and the workload/timings and implications for ourselves that they induce as part of our procedures.
Just think through a 'bomb threat' scenario and the consequences of the checklist. Lots going on everywhere - getting uptodate weathers, comms with ATC, implications of that depending on where you are (radar/procedural environment), company comms, cabin procedures, timings, descent profiles (with/without terrain considerations) etc etc. In this situation these issues are more of a consideration than flying the aircraft, but equally important for the flight crew.
In my ideal world, time each year would be set aside for real full crew training. A first step would include at least the Senior Cabin Crew Member in LOFT scenarios, rather than the instructor role playing.
Shock, horror - it could even mean rostering a extra sim detail a year - after all, if you think safety is expensive, try costing a crash.
We'll have to agree to disagree, I feel.
From my perspective, a LOFT exercise should be as much about CRM as re-inforcing technical skills and QRH usage - there are lots of other mandatory handling skill checks each year. It is important that we as flight crew understand the implications of our calls to the cabin, and the workload/timings and implications for ourselves that they induce as part of our procedures.
Just think through a 'bomb threat' scenario and the consequences of the checklist. Lots going on everywhere - getting uptodate weathers, comms with ATC, implications of that depending on where you are (radar/procedural environment), company comms, cabin procedures, timings, descent profiles (with/without terrain considerations) etc etc. In this situation these issues are more of a consideration than flying the aircraft, but equally important for the flight crew.
In my ideal world, time each year would be set aside for real full crew training. A first step would include at least the Senior Cabin Crew Member in LOFT scenarios, rather than the instructor role playing.
Shock, horror - it could even mean rostering a extra sim detail a year - after all, if you think safety is expensive, try costing a crash.
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"Line Oriented Flight Training" What LOFT ops I have observed were more oriented towards initial or upgrade training where the technical course was over, checkride passed, now conduct a line segment more typical of day to day ops with a couple of obscure considerations thrown in.
One scenario I conducted and was dictated to me was to conduct four legs over a four hour sim block with one missed approach and diversion. Another issue to deal with was an inop nav light that was MEL'd.
At end of four hour block, after we landed at dusk, I handed crew dispatch papers to reposition a few hundred miles away. They erupted rather crudely about having to continue, not remembering the nav light issue (getting dark)and not cognizant of the fact the four hour block was over and another training session was awaiting the sim. When they were led to reality of situation, they were quite sheepish about the outburst
Mike
One scenario I conducted and was dictated to me was to conduct four legs over a four hour sim block with one missed approach and diversion. Another issue to deal with was an inop nav light that was MEL'd.
At end of four hour block, after we landed at dusk, I handed crew dispatch papers to reposition a few hundred miles away. They erupted rather crudely about having to continue, not remembering the nav light issue (getting dark)and not cognizant of the fact the four hour block was over and another training session was awaiting the sim. When they were led to reality of situation, they were quite sheepish about the outburst
Mike
