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Old 4th Apr 2011, 14:33
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and cost of the recovery will be 5 million Euros, to be paid for by the government.
Government ..... tax payer you mean! That aside, I think it's very laudable that they have found the remains, by which I mean of the aircraft and occupants, and are recovering them.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 14:34
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Thank you Machdiamond. I was relying on my A Level French which is now so rusty it is probably verging on becoming a pile of dust.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 14:54
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The three ships contacted for the next phase (with actual position):
- René Descartes; France-Télécom-Marine (Brest).
- Île de Bréhat; Alcatel-Lucent (African Coast)
- Ares; Phoenix International (Cyprus)
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 14:55
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What could be recovered for 5M€? Surely not the wreckage itself? From the press articles, though, that sounds to be the intention. I'd have thought they'd leave the poor souls and just try and recover the recorders, but it seems they actually want to recover the fuselage?

Second thought: How will it be done? Is there a capable successor to the Glomar Explorer that'll be able to salvage stuff from such a depth?

[Edited shortly after original posting to reflect recent press statements]
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:03
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What could be recovered for 5M€? Surely not the wreckage itself. It sounds to me rather like they are hoping to go directly for the recorders.

Anyway, maybe best to leave the poor souls where they are, and concentrate on the data first
Pitot tubes would be worth a look, just as was the case in the Aero Peru & Birgenair crashes in 1996.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:09
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1. The debris field exact location is not to be disclosed (in the North West large abyssal plain about 10 NM from LKP) for security reasons.
This area was combed already in the previous search(es). Would be interesting to see how the previous sonar images of the debris field look compared to the latest one where it was actually located.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:14
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Pitot tubes would be worth a look, just as was the case in the Aero Peru & Birgenair crashes in 1996.
I agree Bobman. Must say I'm impressed by the fleet that has been mentioned by takata just as I was writing my post - the Ares specially seems to have quite a record in deep-sea aircraft recovery. Maybe we will see the end of the quest someday, after all.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:16
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This AP report mentions what pictures were shown at the press conference (does not show them). Otherwise it does not contain much more information than what takata already posted.

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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:20
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keitaidenwa, how do you know the exact location where the main wreckage has been found was searched during the previous phase? See mm43's maps which indicate there were gaps in the previous searches, and the first task for Woods Hole was to search the areas near the LKP that had not been searched before.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:21
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The debris field is in a location that wasn't searched previously. The distance from the LKP is not to be disclosed, but is "close".
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:26
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Another picture here.

Crash Rio-Paris : les premières images de l'épave - France - TF1 News
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:34
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What could be recovered for 5M€? Surely not the wreckage itself? From the press articles, though, that sounds to be the intention. I'd have thought they'd leave the poor souls and just try and recover the recorders, but it seems they actually want to recover the fuselage?
This is obviously not aimed at recovering the whole wreckage ; main goals are:
1. finding and recovering the flight recorders;
2. finding and recovering the maintenance computer;
3. recovering the passenger bodies;

If needed (in case those recorders canot be exploited to fully understand the crash) any other pieces of the wreckage that could be usefull for the investigation to understand the crash would also be recovered.

Detailed pictures in situ can also tell a lot to the BEA without the need to recover all of them.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:36
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keitaidenwa, how do you know the exact location where the main wreckage has been found was searched during the previous phase? See mm43's maps which indicate there were gaps in the previous searches, and the first task for Woods Hole was to search the areas near the LKP that had not been searched before.
My mistake then.. I was under impression that northwest directions specifically were already searched.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:40
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Pictures of debris

Pictures are on the BEA website:

Oprations de recherche en mer
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:41
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My mistake then.. I was under impression that northwest directions specifically were already searched.
In fact, it was by other means than sonar (acoustic search or aerial search and rescue). For this phase, they decided to discard any means other than specific deep sonar investigation.
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:43
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BEA Pictures

In case no one else has yet posted this information, here is the link to pictures shown by the BEA on its web site:

Oprations de recherche en mer : images du site
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:50
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Curious

Some of the news reports suggest that the field was found on a wide, flat area fairly close to the LKP. If so, why was the signal sent by the boxes not detectable early on in the search? Sorry if this is a dumb question!
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:52
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Is the place where the AC has been found near the area where the Emeraude sub heard pings from the recorders ?
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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:54
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Full BEA presentation (PDF)

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Old 4th Apr 2011, 15:54
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