Ferry Flight To Usa
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The above post says about all of it, one more item however, get an oil sample to the best predictive lab you can find before you head over, I recieved a very bad report many years ago, so was on my way back to Witicha when the thing on the front stoped dead!The modern survival suits are so much better than the crap we used to wear, a trawler crew were picked up of Nova Scotia a few years back after many hours in the drink and were in great shape, just keep the gogles on no mater how much they hurt.above all take your time, if the owner doesnt want to pay for hotels ect, dont fly the bloody thing!
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There are some who say your over-water emergency equipment should include an anvil. Hold on and get it over with quickley.
I did some flights south of Cape Horn and had been told to expect rescue in about three weeks.
I have an immersion suit I'd be willing to sell.
Dick
I did some flights south of Cape Horn and had been told to expect rescue in about three weeks.
I have an immersion suit I'd be willing to sell.
Dick
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Ferry flight to the US
If you need to hire any of the essential equipment, give Andrew Bruce a call at far North aviation in Wick. You can pick up PLB, Immersion Suit, sat Phone etc up on your way out and you can drop these off at Goose Bay Labrador. If you need any help with routing let me know but its pretty straight forward.
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"Flying" magazine had an interesting article about ferrying a TBM850 across the Atlantic a few months back. Part 1 is Atlantic Crossing in a Single-Engine Turboprop | FLYING Magazine
...and Part 2 is Atlantic Crossing?Part II | FLYING Magazine
It's in no way definitive about the regulations but gives some interesting background and implies that single engine ferry flights aren't all that unusual.
Bob
...and Part 2 is Atlantic Crossing?Part II | FLYING Magazine
It's in no way definitive about the regulations but gives some interesting background and implies that single engine ferry flights aren't all that unusual.
Bob
Number of single eng. flights
A guy using the name NW_pilot posted on rec.aviation.piloting a while back with some details of exploits.
search google if my links don't work.
rec.aviation.piloting | Google Groups
His website is http://aircraftdelivery.net/
rec.aviation.piloting | Google Groups
"2 172's to Jordan Via Azores, Spain, Italy, Greece, Cypress.
1 Arrow IV to Bulgaria Via Azores, Spain, Italy
2 SR22's to Japan Via Alaska,
1 Cessna 400 to EU (OshKosh)
1 Seneca V to India, Via Alaska, Japan, Philipines, Thiland,
1 SR22 to Newzealand Via Hawaii, X-mas Island, Figi or Pogo Pogo
I am also taking applications for an additional ferry pilot or two to ferry
new Cessna's, and Cirrus in the Fall working on a contract for 25 Sr22
deliveries and 18 Cessna's November 2008 to Febuarry 2009."
Quite a few.
search google if my links don't work.
rec.aviation.piloting | Google Groups
His website is http://aircraftdelivery.net/
rec.aviation.piloting | Google Groups
"2 172's to Jordan Via Azores, Spain, Italy, Greece, Cypress.
1 Arrow IV to Bulgaria Via Azores, Spain, Italy
2 SR22's to Japan Via Alaska,
1 Cessna 400 to EU (OshKosh)
1 Seneca V to India, Via Alaska, Japan, Philipines, Thiland,
1 SR22 to Newzealand Via Hawaii, X-mas Island, Figi or Pogo Pogo
I am also taking applications for an additional ferry pilot or two to ferry
new Cessna's, and Cirrus in the Fall working on a contract for 25 Sr22
deliveries and 18 Cessna's November 2008 to Febuarry 2009."
Quite a few.
There's a little bit of discussion (and some photos) of a ferry flight I recently made from Canada to Europe at this post: http://www.pprune.org/flight-ground-...available.html
A EPIRB transmitter can be bought for less than 200 quid. It transmits your individual identificatio0n on 406Mhz and you will be located immediately by SARSAT. Mostly a yacht gadget, it's the best location aid on the market.
And immersion suits are a must - even in summer.
And immersion suits are a must - even in summer.
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give Andrew Bruce a call at far North aviation in Wick
Any search engine will find his site for you in a moment.
(I have no involvement with Andrew other than a respect for his considerable expertise and the way he does business).
Finally, for what it's worth, I think that ferrying piston engined aeroplanes (OK, not DC-things!) across the pond is foolhardy in the extreme. Take it apart and crate it, is my advice.
Fleigle:
mgTF is planning to fly his own aircraft to North America - this for the purpose of attending Oshkosh this coming summer - for that reason, I don't think that the great pissing match and mud-slinging competition that comprises the "Ferry Bad Experience" thread is of much relevance.
FYI I work for an aircraft manufacturer and ferry new build aircraft internationally as part of my job responsibilities - I made a point of meeting up with mgTF in Italy last fall and spending a day with him explaining more or less how he should go about planning his ferry flight. He intends to make the flight together with one or two other pilots (of the same type) who will also be attending Oshkosh.
Michael
mgTF is planning to fly his own aircraft to North America - this for the purpose of attending Oshkosh this coming summer - for that reason, I don't think that the great pissing match and mud-slinging competition that comprises the "Ferry Bad Experience" thread is of much relevance.
FYI I work for an aircraft manufacturer and ferry new build aircraft internationally as part of my job responsibilities - I made a point of meeting up with mgTF in Italy last fall and spending a day with him explaining more or less how he should go about planning his ferry flight. He intends to make the flight together with one or two other pilots (of the same type) who will also be attending Oshkosh.
Michael
Michael,
I asked this earlier, wrt the -400, you posted some PERF number for it, specifically V speeds. Do you use FAR 25 as the performance basis. That is, do you compute data on field length, FAR 25 climb gradients?
GF
I asked this earlier, wrt the -400, you posted some PERF number for it, specifically V speeds. Do you use FAR 25 as the performance basis. That is, do you compute data on field length, FAR 25 climb gradients?
GF
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AIS and Nautical VHF
Never ever thought of those, good plan.
Just the VHF would be fine, as you will TX your mayday, with lat long from the sat, on 16... BUT remember Ch16 is not really monitored, as the nautical world has an automated system. a bit like selcall, (DSC), and all station distress messages are prefixed by special selcall bongs.
EPIRB is a good option, used by Nautical and Aeronautical types, but there might be registration problems, so sort this out early.
Imodium (!!!!) Sat phone, with GPS, is a good plan too, the normal Nokia not much use.
Glf
Just the VHF would be fine, as you will TX your mayday, with lat long from the sat, on 16... BUT remember Ch16 is not really monitored, as the nautical world has an automated system. a bit like selcall, (DSC), and all station distress messages are prefixed by special selcall bongs.
EPIRB is a good option, used by Nautical and Aeronautical types, but there might be registration problems, so sort this out early.
Imodium (!!!!) Sat phone, with GPS, is a good plan too, the normal Nokia not much use.
Glf
Its Iridium
www.iridium.com-
their phones use satellite connections ordinary mobiles use a mast down the street-not many of them in the Artic wastes.
Very interesting thread for a regular atlantic Pax - good luck to any of you who flies it on pistons and small props
PB
www.iridium.com-
their phones use satellite connections ordinary mobiles use a mast down the street-not many of them in the Artic wastes.
Very interesting thread for a regular atlantic Pax - good luck to any of you who flies it on pistons and small props
PB
Guys,
I used to fly long range search and rescue, albeit a little while ago. I spent many hours over the atlantic looking for missing light aircraft and found only a very few of them.
If you want to take your light aircraft across the pond I would advise sticking it in a crate and using a ship just like the air racers do.
MM
I used to fly long range search and rescue, albeit a little while ago. I spent many hours over the atlantic looking for missing light aircraft and found only a very few of them.
If you want to take your light aircraft across the pond I would advise sticking it in a crate and using a ship just like the air racers do.
MM
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All ships keep a listening watch on Channel 16 and you can see the location and identities of all ships within VHF range on the AIS display. From FL100, for example, you'll 'see' all ships within a hundred mile radius and more.
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Ferrying
The reason there are so many American built aircraft all over the world is because of tanking and ferry pilots.
Done properly it is usually the quickest and most cost effective way to deliver an aircraft.
It has been going on since the war!!
At one point the co I work for had 28 pilots on the books going everywhere including across the Pacific pre GPS,Loran. All DR till you picked up the beacon.
Admittedly the consequences when something goes wrong are serious.
The incidents that have happened over the last few years have all been down to Human Factors.
It has not been the aircraft letting the pilot down.
Pressure, financial, need the money, from client, from ferry co. from wife/girlfriend. Where are you you said you would be.....!They should have stayed on the ground, gone back to hotel and had a beer!
It helps if you don't run out of fuel! and winterise the engine.
But I am biased, my business is ferrying! Not crating
Done properly it is usually the quickest and most cost effective way to deliver an aircraft.
It has been going on since the war!!
At one point the co I work for had 28 pilots on the books going everywhere including across the Pacific pre GPS,Loran. All DR till you picked up the beacon.
Admittedly the consequences when something goes wrong are serious.
The incidents that have happened over the last few years have all been down to Human Factors.
It has not been the aircraft letting the pilot down.
Pressure, financial, need the money, from client, from ferry co. from wife/girlfriend. Where are you you said you would be.....!They should have stayed on the ground, gone back to hotel and had a beer!
It helps if you don't run out of fuel! and winterise the engine.
But I am biased, my business is ferrying! Not crating