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Old 17th Apr 2009, 15:35
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A320: Approach Checklist

Hello,

i would like to know when do you ask for the approach checklist.

some airlines do it at TOD and others at 10.000ft and also some of them at the trans.level .

all inputs are appreciated.
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Old 17th Apr 2009, 15:54
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My airline does it after making the "secure the cabin" call to the cabin crew.
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Old 17th Apr 2009, 15:58
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Our company does it on setting QNH (i.e. cleared to an altitude), however we are ditching the approach checklist completely from the Airbus fleet shortly.
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When setting QNH...
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Thanks guys
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Transition Altitude.
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in my company there is NO approach checklist
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@Cardinal: Why not when passing the TL?
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if the approach checklist is canceled, what is the alternative for it ?
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where I fly, we do a checklist prior to TOD, and a landing checklist at 5000ft.
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Old 18th Apr 2009, 04:08
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Bobrun:

How do you verify the QNH on the APP C/L at TOD and the ecam memo at 5000' on the LDG C/L?

Just curious.

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Again....Read the Book...

First, read carefully your company's SOP. This is what you must go by.

Airbus has a very nice publication on how to run a normal checklist. This
will give you background as to why your company does what it does.

"FLIGHT OPERATIONS BRIEFING NOTES" ..... "NORMAL CHECKLISTS"

A few examples:

1. The normal checklist is NOT a read-n'-do checklist. Thus, it should not
be initiated until all items on that checklist have been accomplished. Normally, there should be no "Hold the checklist at.......(whatever)".
If there is a normal break in flow of a checklist, most companies do an
"Above the Line" and a "Below the Line" protocol.

2. The normal checklist should be run without interruption. Good task management provides for time for both accomplishing the items on the checklist AND for running the checklist.

IF a checklist has to be interrupted, one should state, "Hold the Checklist at.......(whatever)". When the checklist can be continued, "Resume the Checklist (or "Continue the Checklist"....whatever your company specifies) at ..........". In some cases, it may be prudent to start the whole checklist over again....from the beginning. Airbus recommends, at the very least, to back up one item on the checklist when being interrupted and having to hold the checklist.

3. The crewmember reading the checklist and commanding the response should verify that the response coming from the other pilot is correct. In other words, the pilot reading the checklist needs to get his nose out of the checklist to see that the responding pilot's response is correct. VERIFY!

4. The commands and responses need to be EXACTLY as printed. If you cannot do so because of an unusual situation, this should be noted in the response.

5. If an interruption is 'not so important'....continue the checklist until
completed, then attend to the interruption.

6. Normal checkists must not be accomplished from memory. Both the reading pilot AND the responding pilot should have the checklist in front of them....referring to it....challenge AND response.


A proper normal checklist is not so detailed that the pilots get bogged down in minutia, but detailed enough to cover the important items (the "Killer Items"). (This applies to briefings, as well!)

Fly safe,


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there is no alternative. My company operates the Airbus acc the "Silent Cockpit"
(-God Thanks- this makes flying relaxed, easy and more safe imho.)

We also do not have an after-takeoff/climb checklist.
No Take-off checklist
no landing checklist.
At the last two points we have only the "take-off check" and "landing check" which is that the pilots say loud after having checked and confirmed on the ECAM page that its shown
TAKE OFF - ALL (items) GREEN and LANDING - ALL (items) GREEN
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also when setting QNH!
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Question: How do you call out the autobrake setting in the checklist. You say Medium or „med“? And engine mode selector ?“Norm“ oder „normal“?
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Originally Posted by Speedwinner
Question: How do you call out the autobrake setting in the checklist. You say Medium or „med“? And engine mode selector ?“Norm“ oder „normal“?
No one cares where I work. There's no rhyme or reason to what items are per the abbreviation vs the full word. I've heard people read "A/THRUST" as "ay thrust" and "auto thrust". Most people would say "Medium" for the brakes and "Normal" for the engine mode selector but no one would bat an eye if the abbreviation were said instead.
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Originally Posted by Speedwinner
Question: How do you call out the autobrake setting in the checklist. You say Medium or „med“? And engine mode selector ?“Norm“ oder „normal“?
Ref. FCTM PR-NP-CL APPROACH

”NORM”
”LOW” or “MED”

with that being said, I believe nobody in his right mind would debrief you on replying “medium” or “norm-al”

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Thanks, I hear 90% „NORM“ which is very very annoying
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Originally Posted by sonicbum
Ref. FCTM PR-NP-CL APPROACH

”NORM”
”LOW” or “MED”

with that being said, I believe nobody in his right mind would debrief you on replying “medium” or “norm-al”
What does it say for “ignition”? Is it IGN or ignition? Ours says IGN but no one is saying “iggin” or “eye gee en”.
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Originally Posted by AerocatS2A
What does it say for “ignition”? Is it IGN or ignition? Ours says IGN but no one is saying “iggin” or “eye gee en”.
It’s actually Ignition 😄

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