Re engaging automation
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From: In a house
-select a higher speed than you are doing
-select autothrust p/b, move levers to clb detent (if you are in manual thrust)
-select both f/d on
-select a/p on
-then NAV, Managed speed, and then a suitable vertical mode
Should work
-select autothrust p/b, move levers to clb detent (if you are in manual thrust)
-select both f/d on
-select a/p on
-then NAV, Managed speed, and then a suitable vertical mode
Should work
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From: Hamburg
Disengagement
T thrust
A utopilot
F light Directors off
Engagement
F light directors on + modes (order)
A p
T hrust
We learned it that way. I Personally don’t like the engagement with the thrust being at the end. Hoping for some suggestions and techniques here!
T thrust
A utopilot
F light Directors off
Engagement
F light directors on + modes (order)
A p
T hrust
We learned it that way. I Personally don’t like the engagement with the thrust being at the end. Hoping for some suggestions and techniques here!

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From: UK
I would personally reverse the position of Thrust in both cases. Last on disengagement and first on re-engagement. FWIW.
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From: Hamburg
Thanks!
little bit off-topic now but i guess a new threat is not needed…had a Windshear after takeoff scenario in the sim recently. Went into Alpha Floor then TOGA LK…I disconnected the Autothrust and went with manual thrust to prevent a speed bust. Had a lot of troubles though with the speed management here (retarded way too much). Easier way would have been to just re-engage Autothrust.
Would it have been enough to just put the lever into CL detent from TOGA? Or is it required to use the A/THR pb first here since I disconnected the system prior (TOGA LK)
Regards!
little bit off-topic now but i guess a new threat is not needed…had a Windshear after takeoff scenario in the sim recently. Went into Alpha Floor then TOGA LK…I disconnected the Autothrust and went with manual thrust to prevent a speed bust. Had a lot of troubles though with the speed management here (retarded way too much). Easier way would have been to just re-engage Autothrust.
Would it have been enough to just put the lever into CL detent from TOGA? Or is it required to use the A/THR pb first here since I disconnected the system prior (TOGA LK)
Regards!

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From: Ex-pat Aussie in the UK
TOGA/LK can only be deselected by turning the A/THR off.
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From: Miami
Thanks!
little bit off-topic now but i guess a new threat is not needed…had a Windshear after takeoff scenario in the sim recently. Went into Alpha Floor then TOGA LK…I disconnected the Autothrust and went with manual thrust to prevent a speed bust. Had a lot of troubles though with the speed management here (retarded way too much). Easier way would have been to just re-engage Autothrust.
Would it have been enough to just put the lever into CL detent from TOGA? Or is it required to use the A/THR pb first here since I disconnected the system prior (TOGA LK)
Regards!
little bit off-topic now but i guess a new threat is not needed…had a Windshear after takeoff scenario in the sim recently. Went into Alpha Floor then TOGA LK…I disconnected the Autothrust and went with manual thrust to prevent a speed bust. Had a lot of troubles though with the speed management here (retarded way too much). Easier way would have been to just re-engage Autothrust.
Would it have been enough to just put the lever into CL detent from TOGA? Or is it required to use the A/THR pb first here since I disconnected the system prior (TOGA LK)
Regards!

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From: big green wheely bin
No.
You no longer met the conditions for Alpha Floor activation. You could quite easily have still been in windshear.
However, to get out of TOGA Lock you must disengage the auto thrust.
This has changed on newer aircraft with the introduction of A.FLOOR auto thrust mode.
You no longer met the conditions for Alpha Floor activation. You could quite easily have still been in windshear.
However, to get out of TOGA Lock you must disengage the auto thrust.
This has changed on newer aircraft with the introduction of A.FLOOR auto thrust mode.

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From: malta
While the other way is perfectly possible, but paying slightly more attention to set the levers at the correct position and leaving the flying for a split second to the computer feels more logical.
Again, thrust last I am perfectly able to do, but I am used to this way after 10+ years Airbus.
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From: Middle East
Hello all....
1- set required spd, Athr On, levers to CLB.
2- AP on, FD on, rengage AP/FDA modes (note that when engaging the AP you are in fact engaging both the AP & FD together but the FDs are out of view until you sw them on)....
1- set required spd, Athr On, levers to CLB.
2- AP on, FD on, rengage AP/FDA modes (note that when engaging the AP you are in fact engaging both the AP & FD together but the FDs are out of view until you sw them on)....
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From: HMP Slade
Thanks!
little bit off-topic now but i guess a new threat is not needed…had a Windshear after takeoff scenario in the sim recently. Went into Alpha Floor then TOGA LK…I disconnected the Autothrust and went with manual thrust to prevent a speed bust. Had a lot of troubles though with the speed management here (retarded way too much). Easier way would have been to just re-engage Autothrust.
Would it have been enough to just put the lever into CL detent from TOGA? Or is it required to use the A/THR pb first here since I disconnected the system prior (TOGA LK)
Regards!
little bit off-topic now but i guess a new threat is not needed…had a Windshear after takeoff scenario in the sim recently. Went into Alpha Floor then TOGA LK…I disconnected the Autothrust and went with manual thrust to prevent a speed bust. Had a lot of troubles though with the speed management here (retarded way too much). Easier way would have been to just re-engage Autothrust.
Would it have been enough to just put the lever into CL detent from TOGA? Or is it required to use the A/THR pb first here since I disconnected the system prior (TOGA LK)
Regards!


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From: FL390
Are you seriously telling us that you are incapable of flying an aircraft without auto thrust?





