How did the 9/11 Hijackers Navigate?
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Following the Hudson from Albany to NYC on a CAVU days is maybe the easiest thing a pilot could ever do. And I strongly suspect they chose a CAVU day precisely because it would have the greatest influence (Live AM TV coverage) politically.
Actually hitting the target at that speed? They could have practiced a few hundred times on FS. They probably had secondary targets chosen in case of a go-around, which is likely the case at the Pentagon.
And as the photos show, healthy turbine discs do not disintegrate on impact.
Actually hitting the target at that speed? They could have practiced a few hundred times on FS. They probably had secondary targets chosen in case of a go-around, which is likely the case at the Pentagon.
And as the photos show, healthy turbine discs do not disintegrate on impact.
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Following the Hudson from Albany to NYC on a CAVU days is maybe the easiest thing a pilot could ever do.
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Right, but did they know it would be a CAVU day when they bought their tickets ? I don't think they did, so I believe they were lucky in this respect.
Following the Hudson from Albany to NYC on a CAVU days is maybe the easiest thing a pilot could ever do.
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Right, but did they know it would be a CAVU day when they bought their tickets ? I don't think they did, so I believe they were lucky in this respect.
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Pentagon attack
Whats the lowest altitude a 767 could manage at 500MPH taking into account ground effect ??
The plane (Alleged)was pictured on security camera flying level , not nose up ..
Can a 767 maintain level flight at 500MPH in the first place ?? You all know the answer to that "No"!!
The Engines thrust ?? Whats that about at full power ?? 60,200 lb Thrust
? You know the wake would have destroyed the lawn.. The only thing that flies that fast and that low is a TLAM .. The Blast signature is the same too .. This is not idle conspiracy theory , this is being of sound mind and knowing a Plane that size will not fit into a small hole !!
The plane (Alleged)was pictured on security camera flying level , not nose up ..
Can a 767 maintain level flight at 500MPH in the first place ?? You all know the answer to that "No"!!
The Engines thrust ?? Whats that about at full power ?? 60,200 lb Thrust
? You know the wake would have destroyed the lawn.. The only thing that flies that fast and that low is a TLAM .. The Blast signature is the same too .. This is not idle conspiracy theory , this is being of sound mind and knowing a Plane that size will not fit into a small hole !!
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This is not idle conspiracy theory , this is being of sound mind and knowing a Plane that size will not fit into a small hole !!
The aircraft disapeared into the Pentagon easily. As you say, take one plane at 500 mph that is made from tin and spear it into multi layered building constructured of multiple steel and concrete walls and what you get is small entry hole that disintegrated the aircraft. No conspiracy in that, sheer mathematics will prove that.
As for the Towers, it was not difficult to mark them on a beautiful sunny NY day, regardless of the speed and dynamics of the aircraft. If you can drop a 767 on the piano keys at JFK then you can line one up with the two giant beacons they struck. The
who pulled off the stunt were lucky with the weather, but had enough training to steer an already airbourne craft.There is no conspirancy in all this. Sadly the Yanks saw themselves ( and to a degree still do) as indestructable and some people still do not want to believe that the events of 9/11 could be pulled off by a group of nutters so easily. Sorry frriends, but it was that easy for them.
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Hi,
You right ..
But ...
Can you comment (with the same argument) about the hole on the other side (the out ? hole) .. far from the entry hole .. if the aircraft was desintegrated by the external wall ?
BTW .. comment also on this ... please (you know the altitude of the last seconds flight path I suppose)
h dear..I agree with Brian Abraham on this one !
The aircraft disapeared into the Pentagon easily. As you say, take one plane at 500 mph that is made from tin and spear it into multi layered building constructured of multiple steel and concrete walls and what you get is small entry hole that disintegrated the aircraft. No conspiracy in that, sheer mathematics will prove that.
The aircraft disapeared into the Pentagon easily. As you say, take one plane at 500 mph that is made from tin and spear it into multi layered building constructured of multiple steel and concrete walls and what you get is small entry hole that disintegrated the aircraft. No conspiracy in that, sheer mathematics will prove that.
But ...
constructured of multiple steel and concrete walls and what you get is small entry hole that disintegrated the aircraft. No conspiracy in that, sheer mathematics will prove that.
BTW .. comment also on this ... please (you know the altitude of the last seconds flight path I suppose)
Can a 767 maintain level flight at 500MPH in the first place ?? You all know the answer to that "No"!!
The Engines thrust ?? Whats that about at full power ?? 60,200 lb Thrust
? You know the wake would have destroyed the lawn.
The Engines thrust ?? Whats that about at full power ?? 60,200 lb Thrust
? You know the wake would have destroyed the lawn.
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Every time the fruitcakes ask me about my "professional" oppinion on the events I like to use the saying "anybody can fly, but not everybody can land". Flying an already airborne plane in clear weather is so easy a child can do it.
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@owainglyndwr1416
I don't even see the sense in proving you wrong, you can't and won't be proven wrong because you think you know the "truth".
That being said, you have no understanding of flying an aircraft, the physics involved or how jet thrust actually works, so continue to believe whatever yo uwill believe, I just hope that Darwin is right and the ones missing a few synapses here and there don't pass their genes on to the next generation, alongside the terrorist nutjobs.
I don't even see the sense in proving you wrong, you can't and won't be proven wrong because you think you know the "truth".
That being said, you have no understanding of flying an aircraft, the physics involved or how jet thrust actually works, so continue to believe whatever yo uwill believe, I just hope that Darwin is right and the ones missing a few synapses here and there don't pass their genes on to the next generation, alongside the terrorist nutjobs.
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How do you explain building 7? The tower wasn't even hit by an aircraft. It is impossible for jet fuel to collapse two towers at free fall speeds.
The number of inconsistencies in this are alarming, I find it offensive that you would consider anyone who questioned the "official" story of 9/11 a "nutjob", one has to be a nutjob to believe the official fairy tale version of events in my book.
Why would anyone question the ability of a known psychopath, President Bush, along with Mossad and the CIA in carrying this out? He took us to war with Iraq illegally, claiming that there were WMD, which we all know to be a lie. 9/11 served as the pretext in carrying out another illegal war with Afghanistan, which allied troops are still engaged in, how many innocent people have died in these two conflicts alone, on either side!
Before any sycophantic moron on this site criticizes me for debasing the memories of the people killed, let me just say this. There are a sizeable group of people including relatives of the deceased that question the fairy tale story of 9/11, this also includes pilots, engineers and fireman. To say that we are nut jobs is insulting not only to us but to the memories of those killed in these horrendous acts on the American people by their commander in chief.
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at 500 mph that is made from tin and spear it into multi layered building constructured of multiple steel and concrete walls and what you get is small entry hole that disintegrated the aircraft. No conspiracy in that, sheer mathematics will prove that.
on much slower speeds
while diving into the water for their own "terrorist" attacs on poor fishes
FOLD their wide wings, JUST prior to IMPACT with water level ?
