What was your worst nightmare in the Sim?
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not long ago I presented my students a multiple non-critical failure scenario. They had an engine failure and then they lost a hyd system in a 735. Weather wasn´t a big problem, all I wanted to see was that the way they dealt with both anomalies. They first got the plane under control, then declared the emergency, were given vectors while they did their chklists and then they went ahead and tried a restart, which woulda given them the hyd syst back. Exactly what I expected from them. The engine didn´t relight, (
) so they then proceeded to carry out the loss of syst b (think it was) chklist...they then compared the "deferred items" landing checklist for both situations and used the loss of syst b one, which included all of the items for the other one. They made a successful landing, had to use their brains, learned something and had a good time...
If I am going to present crazy scenarios it´s only after having completed that day´s schedule and it´s not to be evaluated. Once we´re clear on that......show time !!!!
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SW.
) so they then proceeded to carry out the loss of syst b (think it was) chklist...they then compared the "deferred items" landing checklist for both situations and used the loss of syst b one, which included all of the items for the other one. They made a successful landing, had to use their brains, learned something and had a good time...If I am going to present crazy scenarios it´s only after having completed that day´s schedule and it´s not to be evaluated. Once we´re clear on that......show time !!!!
Regards,
SW.
Psychophysiological entity
Any idiot can find ridiculous scenarios to throw at any pilot and we all have a breaking point.
Just a word from a dinosaur.
Y'know, it doesn't hurt to be pushed to breaking point occasionally. But when I was pushed, I resorted to the "oh bo11ox" routine, and just flew the airplane with what I'd got left. Basic instruments, and basic airmanship.
The whole point is that it must not break you.
Hopefully there will be very few of you that are left with almost nothing on a proverbial ‘dark and stormy', but being ready to be the only wide-body captain on basic instruments in the world one night, will do nothing but good for your confidence. So, when the screens go black and all hell lets loose in the sim, don't resent it...compartmentalize, and throw out everything that you couldn't possibly tend to in the real world. Then be ready to stick to your guns.
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I fly the 737 Classics, which has a landing gear transfer unit. If engine 1 fails (n2 decreases below 56%) that allows the gear to be raised by hyd syst B ´s engine driven pump, so gear goes up anyway....
and if mem serves the 737 jurassic has 2 engine driven pumps in the the system A, so gear retracts normally if either engine quits.
The trick in the engine failure plus loss of a hyd system scenario is that if the failure was actually a damage or an overheat/fire condition, you would have to pull the fire switch, which disables the hyd low pressure light. After a few seconds I give you a low press in the remaining pump for that system..you get master caution, hydraulics, and when u look up all u see is an elec pump low press light, but the engine driven pump ´s light is off...if you don´t look at the hyd press gauge and you aren´t thinking you´ll ask for the wrong checklist, and you´ll realize you´ve lost a system when you try to engage that side's a/p, or lower gear or flaps...which is too late usually...airport going below minimums, low fuel etc...most people fall victim of this one, but you brief them on what to do and keep going...
and if mem serves the 737 jurassic has 2 engine driven pumps in the the system A, so gear retracts normally if either engine quits.
The trick in the engine failure plus loss of a hyd system scenario is that if the failure was actually a damage or an overheat/fire condition, you would have to pull the fire switch, which disables the hyd low pressure light. After a few seconds I give you a low press in the remaining pump for that system..you get master caution, hydraulics, and when u look up all u see is an elec pump low press light, but the engine driven pump ´s light is off...if you don´t look at the hyd press gauge and you aren´t thinking you´ll ask for the wrong checklist, and you´ll realize you´ve lost a system when you try to engage that side's a/p, or lower gear or flaps...which is too late usually...airport going below minimums, low fuel etc...most people fall victim of this one, but you brief them on what to do and keep going...
Multi multi birdstrike just after V1.
Captain U/S due to being smacked by a seagull. Right engine flamed out. Left engine pegged at max EGT, fire warning and surging. (Are you gonna shut it down???)
"For F***s sake!! Get that other engine going!!!" "ANY WAY YOU CAN!!!"
Suddenly the QRH is not much use.
Got me to have a rethink on cross-bleed starts.
Situational Awareness. How would you start an engine in a BIG hurry? How far can you glide from clean speed at 1000 feet on T/O if both motors failed? 260/80 and a tailwind landing or tight circuit? Will the gear go down? (757 gear lever in the off position to ensure the gear doesn't hang up?)
Amazing how small the "big picture" can shrink in the 6 minutes of flight from roll to landing. It taught me that I really am a bit poor in the S.A. area.
Never happen? TOM flight out of Manchester a few days ago.
Captain U/S due to being smacked by a seagull. Right engine flamed out. Left engine pegged at max EGT, fire warning and surging. (Are you gonna shut it down???)
"For F***s sake!! Get that other engine going!!!" "ANY WAY YOU CAN!!!"
Suddenly the QRH is not much use.
Got me to have a rethink on cross-bleed starts.
Situational Awareness. How would you start an engine in a BIG hurry? How far can you glide from clean speed at 1000 feet on T/O if both motors failed? 260/80 and a tailwind landing or tight circuit? Will the gear go down? (757 gear lever in the off position to ensure the gear doesn't hang up?)
Amazing how small the "big picture" can shrink in the 6 minutes of flight from roll to landing. It taught me that I really am a bit poor in the S.A. area.
Never happen? TOM flight out of Manchester a few days ago.
Last edited by blue up; 14th May 2007 at 16:13. Reason: Adding CRM stuff
