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Old 17th Nov 2006, 00:56
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TOLD Data Cards--Yes or No?

The mob I'm with recently introduced data cards. Corporate operation, yes, but what do most airlines do for data cards when the plane has FMS-derived, AFM-compliant performance data electronically posted to the PFD?

Do you use paper cards or not?

If so, how complicated? Ours includes just about everything concerning the departure--including Flight Log times, WX, and Fuel Onboard and Uplifted.
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Old 17th Nov 2006, 02:43
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Ours includes just about everything concerning the departure

Might not that defeat the prime purpose of an easy to locate spot providing the critical safety related data for the movement ?
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My current operation does not use, a previous operation used a laminated flip card system.
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Many carriers use a takeoff data card that has far too much info on it, it seemingly includes even the kitchen sink.

Keep it simple.

Speeds.
Thrust.
Flaps.
Temp/wind/QNH.
Runway selected.

The latter is rather important.
PanAmerican came a cropper at KSFO with a last minute runway change, years ago...not good.
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We use small TOLD cards on all aircraft regardless of FMS configuration. Data inserted is as mentioned by 411A.

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No, not using any TOLD cards.
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