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galaxy flyer 17th November 2006 00:56

TOLD Data Cards--Yes or No?
 
The mob I'm with recently introduced data cards. Corporate operation, yes, but what do most airlines do for data cards when the plane has FMS-derived, AFM-compliant performance data electronically posted to the PFD?

Do you use paper cards or not?

If so, how complicated? Ours includes just about everything concerning the departure--including Flight Log times, WX, and Fuel Onboard and Uplifted.

john_tullamarine 17th November 2006 02:43

Ours includes just about everything concerning the departure

Might not that defeat the prime purpose of an easy to locate spot providing the critical safety related data for the movement ?

Dream Land 17th November 2006 03:46

My current operation does not use, a previous operation used a laminated flip card system.

411A 17th November 2006 05:14

Many carriers use a takeoff data card that has far too much info on it, it seemingly includes even the kitchen sink.

Keep it simple.

Speeds.
Thrust.
Flaps.
Temp/wind/QNH.
Runway selected.

The latter is rather important.
PanAmerican came a cropper at KSFO with a last minute runway change, years ago...not good.:(

mutt 17th November 2006 05:22

We use small TOLD cards on all aircraft regardless of FMS configuration. Data inserted is as mentioned by 411A.

Mutt

dolly737 17th November 2006 06:41

No, not using any TOLD cards.


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