A340 vs 747-400
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A340 vs 747-400
a friend of mine is capt. with SIA, and whenever he flys to singapore on 747-400, he's always complaining that A340's ahead of him are always slowing him down. How true is this, or is he just a man who likes to moan (like most of us humans)
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The 340 plods along at around 0.82, whilst the -400 is more in the region of 0.84 or 0.85 (depend on the airlines op. proc. of course) So yes, at the same level the the -400 will close. The 340 will usually step higher earlier though (at heavy weights) so not always a prob. As you say human nature, like being in the circuit in a C210, and bitching about the Tomohawk in front.
Lucifer, what routes place a restriction on min. speed? I am aware of Mach no. technique etc, but have not heard of a route not being available to an a/c type per se. In my experience, he who is in front generally get to set the pace.
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Lucifer, what routes place a restriction on min. speed? I am aware of Mach no. technique etc, but have not heard of a route not being available to an a/c type per se. In my experience, he who is in front generally get to set the pace.
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Sound like it may be either an eng-out prob., or an O2 capacity one. The Virgin 340's have the smaller CFM on them, and maybe can't maintain terrain clearence if one goes out, or it may be that they can maintain the required alt., but don't have the O2 to be able to stay high enough long enough.
On the NOPAC routes between Anchorage/Vancouver etc, and Japan and further, you will often hear speed jockeying going on. Whoever is in front is entitled to stick to whatever speed they choose. Some of the 340 guys even slow down if the -400 behind them complains too much.
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On the NOPAC routes between Anchorage/Vancouver etc, and Japan and further, you will often hear speed jockeying going on. Whoever is in front is entitled to stick to whatever speed they choose. Some of the 340 guys even slow down if the -400 behind them complains too much.
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Lucifer/jtr - there's a high speed airway in eastern Siberia that has a min. speed of .84 or .85 (can't remember the exact speed), so it's effectively limited to 747s.
Despite all the whingeing from the Jumbo brigade there's not a hell of a difference in TAS between .82 and .85 - a jumbo picks up maybe 20 minutes in a 12 hour flight. Not that you'd believe it listening to all the moaning coming from the sharp end
Despite all the whingeing from the Jumbo brigade there's not a hell of a difference in TAS between .82 and .85 - a jumbo picks up maybe 20 minutes in a 12 hour flight. Not that you'd believe it listening to all the moaning coming from the sharp end
