Conquest Fuel Heaters
Conquest Fuel Heaters
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Do not believe that the CE441 had any option for fuel heaters. Try a search of http://av-info.faa.gov to see if there are any STC's available. The additive may be your only option.
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Fuel additive (anti-ice) in the C441 is critical. As all experienced pilots know and engineers worth their salt will tell you that it only takes a microscopic drop of water or ice chip to completely destroy an FCU.
If you do short haul in predominantly warm enviorons then 'avgas' will kill the 'bugs' that reside in Jet A1. Just a few litres every few weeks will kill the fungacide.
Zeke: You should have more sense, just remember your playing with the aircraft certification, next stop a coronial inquest!!
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If you do short haul in predominantly warm enviorons then 'avgas' will kill the 'bugs' that reside in Jet A1. Just a few litres every few weeks will kill the fungacide.
Zeke: You should have more sense, just remember your playing with the aircraft certification, next stop a coronial inquest!!
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Office update,
The FAA C441 TCDS A28CE says ....
I will check up on the fuel that we used to use to see if it contains diegme in the prescribed quantities. The company that I used to be with had over 8 years of experience operating the type, and the guys working there were the only ones with the ability to service the FCU’s for the region (break out boxes and bench FCU calibration gear).
The electronic FCU on the conquest is unique amongst the garrets when you compare what the pitch/speed power levers actually do.
The FAA C441 TCDS A28CE says ....
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Aviation turbine fuel ASTM D-1655, Jet A, Jet A-1 or Jet B; MIL-T-5624, JP-4 or Jp-5.
Anti-icing additive per MIL-I-27686D, MIL-T-2768E, or Phillips PFA 55MB must be blended into the aircraft fuel in concentrations not less than 0.060% by volume. For emergency use of aviation gasoline and fueling procedures, refer to FAA Approved Airplane Flight Manual.</font>
Anti-icing additive per MIL-I-27686D, MIL-T-2768E, or Phillips PFA 55MB must be blended into the aircraft fuel in concentrations not less than 0.060% by volume. For emergency use of aviation gasoline and fueling procedures, refer to FAA Approved Airplane Flight Manual.</font>
The electronic FCU on the conquest is unique amongst the garrets when you compare what the pitch/speed power levers actually do.
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Office update,
Just checked the Material Safety Data Sheet for Turbine Fuel, Aviation — Wide-Cut Type
Regulated Components
Diegme is the active ingredient of FSII (Fuel System Icing Inhibitor), as it is above the prescribed minimum quantity no additive is required.
Just checked the Material Safety Data Sheet for Turbine Fuel, Aviation — Wide-Cut Type
Regulated Components
- Kerosene 40-70%
- Naphtha 30-60%
- Ethylene Glycol Monomethyl Ether (EGME) 0.15%
- Diethylene Glycol Monomethyl Ether (DIEGME) 0.15%
Diegme is the active ingredient of FSII (Fuel System Icing Inhibitor), as it is above the prescribed minimum quantity no additive is required.
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Hold on, Zeke. What you describe is the old wide-cut JET B/JP-4. The highly volatile stuff that isn't hardly available anymore.
JET A/JET A1
JET B/JP-4
See the MSDSheets:
http://www.hess.com/about/msds/jet_a__a1.html
http://www.hess.com/about/msds/jp4__.html
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JET A/JET A1
- Kerosene 100%
- Napthalene 0.04%
JET B/JP-4
- Kerosene 35-65%
- Napthalene 35-65%
- Benzene 0.1-0.4%
See the MSDSheets:
http://www.hess.com/about/msds/jet_a__a1.html
http://www.hess.com/about/msds/jp4__.html
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Cardinal,
To quote transport canada ....
"Jet B is a wide-cut kerosene with lighter gasoline-type naphtha components. It’s widely used in Canada, contains static dissipator and has a very low flash point."
My understanding the F34, F40, aand F44 fuels all have the FSII in them.
To quote transport canada ....
"Jet B is a wide-cut kerosene with lighter gasoline-type naphtha components. It’s widely used in Canada, contains static dissipator and has a very low flash point."
My understanding the F34, F40, aand F44 fuels all have the FSII in them.
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Zeke,
Appreciate your input, good man!! however wide ranging comments such as your first post are very misleading and deceiving. You should have first stated that you were in Canada?? and that you were using jet B a type of fuel not widely available etc especially in most parts of the world.
Younger pilots reading your post might think that you know more or are in possession of the latest 'gen' re the use of fuel additives. Theye may even be lulled into a false sense of security by your posting.
You have done a lot of research, for that I thank you as I did not know Jet B was still available, too low a flash point! For the sake of the younger pilots please be careful in your wording.
Appreciate your input, good man!! however wide ranging comments such as your first post are very misleading and deceiving. You should have first stated that you were in Canada?? and that you were using jet B a type of fuel not widely available etc especially in most parts of the world.
Younger pilots reading your post might think that you know more or are in possession of the latest 'gen' re the use of fuel additives. Theye may even be lulled into a false sense of security by your posting.
You have done a lot of research, for that I thank you as I did not know Jet B was still available, too low a flash point! For the sake of the younger pilots please be careful in your wording.
